Nation names ?? - Page 2

chtronk · #11 March 12th, 2004, 02:45 AM

Do anyone know where the nation names come from in Dominions 2 ??
I know the R'lyeh is Cthulu's city name.
I have information about Jotunheim, Vanheim and Atlantis.
But the others ?

Maximillian · #12 March 12th, 2004, 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by ywl:
Depends... There is more than one way to romanize Chinese characters. Tien Chi is definitely not Pin Yin, the official method for the mainland China.

Oops that was a mistake on my part. My Pin Yin must be getting really rusty

I agree with you that a general named "Lui Bei" serving under me sure feels funny. Since Dominions mostly takes other nations from Celtic/Norse/Aztec/etc myths, I think it would have been better if IW used actual figures from Chinese mythology with correct Pin Yin names instead of "vaguely Chinese" ones.

Hmm... you know, we could always make a mod to do exactly that

alexti · #13 March 12th, 2004, 04:34 AM

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Originally posted by Maximillian:
I agree with you that a general named "Lui Bei" serving under me sure feels funny. Since Dominions mostly takes other nations from Celtic/Norse/Aztec/etc myths, I think it would have been better if IW used actual figures from Chinese mythology with correct Pin Yin names instead of "vaguely Chinese" ones.

Hmm... you know, we could always make a mod to do exactly that

AFAIR, many names in Dominions I came in response to this request:
http://www.google.ca/Groups?hl=en&lr...ewsc.telia.net

I guess Dom II inherited those names, but Tien Chi was added in Dom2, so if you have good Chinese and Pin Yin, Illwinter may welcome added/corrected list of names for Tien Chi.

quantum_mechani · #14 March 12th, 2004, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Wauthan:

Muspelheim - The worldpyre. The opposite of Neifelheim. Not featured in the game but a possibility for a mod perhaps. Would love to see Surt and other giants of fire.

Actually, there is a spell 'Warriors of Muuspelheim', gives fire resistance to your army IIRC. Still, it does sound like a good idea for a mod.

reverend · #15 March 12th, 2004, 09:57 AM

let me expand on Ulm (founded in 854) a bit.

Ulm is the place of the tallest church in the world, the Ulmer M�nster, 161.53m tall, built in 1377-1890.
the stair to the top of the tower has 753 steps, and the M�nster offers room for 20000 people.

here a few pictures:
http://www.ulmer-muenster.de/portal/indmueg.jpg
and from across the Danube:
http://www.ulmer-muenster.de/portal/muentot2.gif

of course, Ulm is also the home of A. Einstein, and this year is "Einstein year", celebrating his 125th birthday.

if you don't know Einstein:
http://www.8ung.at/liquid1/clipart/bw/einstein.jpg

by the way, Ulmians, and the whole region (Schwaben) are usually accused of being stingy. there's a German joke "Schotten sind des Landes wegen Verschwendungssucht verwiesene Schwaben" but don't ask me to translate it

Torvak · #16 March 12th, 2004, 10:17 AM

I'm still waiting for an explanation of Arcoscephale. That seems to be a tough one.

archaeolept · #17 March 12th, 2004, 10:28 AM

bow-headed.

no, seriously.

Starfighter08 · #18 March 12th, 2004, 08:14 PM

Disclaimer: Of course I know that all nations in Dominions 2 are fiction/fantasy.

Man: Norman maybe. The description (conquered a kingdom/strict (feudalism) fits pretty well and the knight unit has a norman shield and IIRC even chain mail armor like the knights on the Bayeux tapestry.

Ermor: Rome. The names and descritptions of the legionary units in Broken Empire and their position on the battlefield are correct. But Soul Gate got it wrong: Tribunes, Senators and Consuln weren't religious leaders.

Taqwus · #19 March 12th, 2004, 08:20 PM

Arkos and Cephale both stem from Greek. The latter refers to the head or mind, the former to leader or chief. At least that's what some Googling suggests.

Edit: As for Man, well, there's actually an Isle of Man, which IIRC has some Celtic heritage and related legends.

[ March 12, 2004, 18:31: Message edited by: Taqwus ]

archaeolept · #20 March 12th, 2004, 09:26 PM

"Arcos" means arc, or arch is essence, (ie. like a bow (same general idea)). Of course, "arch" can mean leader (as in "arch-druid"), but I wasn't joking about "bow-headed"

well, OK, "bow" is usually something like "toxou" in greek (mounted archers were the toxotes), but the point still holds...

really, though, linking the "arcos" to the "arch of the sky" or some such is probably a good bet; thus mixing it up semantically w/ Apollo/Apollonian...