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February 20th, 2004, 01:43 PM
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Why would Illithid mind bLasts affect my Carrion Lords?
My Carrion Lords are undead so wouldnt they be exempt from being mindbLasted to all hell? Just lost a fight against 1 illithid and 9 illithid soldiers against my 80 Mandragora and 1 Carrion Lord. Just wondering if I'm off base here. Prior to this I lost my Ettin Mandragora hero the same way...and he was undead as well. Just curious what everyone's thoughts on this would be.
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February 20th, 2004, 01:59 PM
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Re: Why would Illithid mind bLasts affect my Carrion Lords?
They are undead, but not mindless.
There's no dependency between those two.
Vinemen e.g. are mindless, but not undead, as are non-commander golems, statues etc.
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February 21st, 2004, 02:01 AM
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Re: Why would Illithid mind bLasts affect my Carrion Lords?
Undead are not immune to mind bLasts. Only mindless beings are immune to mind bLasts. A lot of weaker undead are mindless, but stronger undead (Lictor, Wailing Lady, Wight) and undead commanders/mages are not.
I don't know what CW has that can soak up mind bLasts, if its normal mandragoras/carrion beasts are mindless. Summon Animals or Horned Serpents might work, or you might have to resort to making living troops.
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February 21st, 2004, 02:16 AM
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Re: Why would Illithid mind bLasts affect my Carrion Lords?
I agree that the commanders aren't mindless but I disagree that they would be effected by mindbLasts. As undead beings their minds wouldn't work the same as a living creature they would be more magical in nature. There is no organic brain or whatever regulating body functions so if there isn't a brain controlling their bodies and actions why would it be affected by a stun that stops the brain from sending out impulses? Hell their brains probably rotted away. Now if this less a brain/mind stun and more like a telekinetic power that holds a being there then I could see it working on a being regardless. Just my 2 cents.
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February 21st, 2004, 02:35 AM
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Re: Why would Illithid mind bLasts affect my Carrion Lords?
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Originally posted by Ascendent:
I agree that the commanders aren't mindless but I disagree that they would be effected by mindbLasts. As undead beings their minds wouldn't work the same as a living creature they would be more magical in nature. There is no organic brain or whatever regulating body functions so if there isn't a brain controlling their bodies and actions why would it be affected by a stun that stops the brain from sending out impulses? Hell their brains probably rotted away. Now if this less a brain/mind stun and more like a telekinetic power that holds a being there then I could see it working on a being regardless. Just my 2 cents.
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February 21st, 2004, 02:49 AM
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Re: Why would Illithid mind bLasts affect my Carrion Lords?
*sigh* guess I'll have to trust you on it. Haven't raised any undead since High School guess I'm out of touch.
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