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Old April 2nd, 2004, 05:46 PM

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Why the heck do we even have Dvd players's in the car?
Twelve hour car rides, that's why..of course a lot of these parents are too lazy to go vist relatives so that's moot.

And we have these laws because some parents are stupid enough to leave their kids in the car long enough that they -die- from heat exhuastion.
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Old April 2nd, 2004, 06:17 PM
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Why the heck do we even have Dvd players's in the car?
Twelve hour car rides, that's why..
That's what sing-alongs are for. Ok everybody now...

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Old April 2nd, 2004, 06:29 PM

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Yep. Sounds like a typical dumb news story. I don't get the big deal. 7 and 10? When I was little, my siblings and I would CHOOSE to stay in the the car rather than tag along for an hour in a boring old home improvement store. Of course we were instructed that if someone were to try anything to try anything we were to grab sharp objects and repeatedly beat on the horn. Anyway, dumb news story.
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Old April 2nd, 2004, 07:15 PM
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I don't think that good parenting is constant surveillance 24/7. Aim of good parenting should be to finally enable them to look for themselves. 7 and 10? If they cannot be left alone for 10 minutes, when can parents start to let their children alone? At 18? 20? 30?... Maybe that's why so many stupid adults are running around these days who really should not be left alone.

Turning off the DVD, getting children out of car, discussion and whining ("why can't I stay here and watch? I don't wanno go that stupid store!"), will take more than 10 mins. Unnecessary stress for both, parents and children. I wouldn't leave the key in the car, wouldn't do it if the car is parked in a sloped road, and would lock the car.

Of course it is possible to construct any kind of lurking dangers that can threaten them. But remember, you can die while walking your dog
"We used to play in the woods when I was little too. But life was different then." Not really. Standards were different then. Todays parents would start discussing the dangers of falling trees, dangerous rivers, diseased animals, possible broken bones etc.

I doubt there is a "right" way to do it, but making parents to slaves for their children surely isn't. Over-protectivness is widespread these days and seems to result in todays people - not able to care for themselves, unable to take any responsibilities, and crying for laws and government to protect them against anything and everything including their own lazyness and stupidity.
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Ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall, ninety-nine bottles of beer...
Just so you know Geo, I felt obligated to contact your local police to report your wreckless encouragement of underaged drinking. A few days in a jail cell should cure you of your bad parenting skills.

Oh, and please make sure PBW remains up during your incarceration. Thanks!
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Geo why would anyone watch that bowling for combine movie... That thing is just brutal....

He should go after cars... since more people die each year in car accidents...

Or swimming pools...

That guy is a nut and his documentaries are brutal one sided piles of ........

Like all those blogs I used to visit. Little did I know they were fronts for Democratic Good vs Republican evil. Once I figured that out they held no value to me.

P.S. I know you were saying that one for me.... It is how I truely feel the news should be. Maybe have a local news cornor where that stuff might be mentioned... I have mentioned it a few times over the years on this forum.


Why does everything become left vs right? Drives me nuts......


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Geo your post eariler. All I have to do is stand up and clap. And remind my self I should not post before I eat breakfast and drink a cup of Joe.
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Definitly Not Politically Correct HUMOR....

REPUBLICANISM SHOWN TO BE GENETIC IN ORIGIN
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:49:20 -0800


The discovery that affiliation with the Republican Party is genetically determined was announced by scientists in the current issue of the journal NURTURE, causing uproar among traditionalists who believe it is a chosen lifestyle.

Reports of the gene coding for political conservatism, discovered after a decades-long study of quintuplets in Orange County, CA, has sent shock waves through the medical, political, and golfing communities.

Psychologists and psychoanalysts have long believed that Republicans' unnatural disregard for the poor and frequently unconstitutional tendencies resulted from dysfunctional family dynamics -- a remarkably high percentage of Republicans do have authoritarian domineering fathers and emotionally distant mothers who didn't teach them how to be kind and gentle.

Biologists have long suspected that conservatism is inherited. "After all," said one author of the NURTURE article, "It's quite common for a Republican to have a brother or sister who is a Republican."

The finding has been greeted with relief by Parents and Friends of Republicans (PFREP), who sometimes blame themselves for the political views of otherwise lovable children, family, and unindicted co-conspirators.

One mother, a longtime Democrat, wept and clapped her hands in ecstasy on hearing of the findings. "I just knew it was genetic," she said, seated with her two sons, both avowed Republicans. "My boys would never freely choose that lifestyle!"

When asked what the Republican lifestyle was, she said, "You can just tell watching their conventions in Houston and San Diego on TV: the flaming xenophobia, flamboyant demagogy, disdain for anyone not rich, you know."

Both sons had suspected their Republicanism from an early age but did not confirm it until they were in college, when they became convinced it wasn't just a phase they were going through.

The NURTURE article offered no response to the suggestion that the high incidence of Republicanism among siblings could result from their sharing not only genes but also psychological and emotional attitude as products of the same parents and family dynamics.

A remaining mystery is why many Democrats admit to having voted Republican at least once -- or often dream or fantasize about doing so. Polls show that three out of five adult Democrats have had a Republican experience, although most outgrow teenage experimentation with Republicanism.

Some Republicans hail the findings as a step toward eliminating conservophobia. They argue that since Republicans didn't "choose" their lifestyle any more than someone "chooses" to have a ski-jump nose, they shouldn't be denied civil rights which other minorities enjoy.

If conservatism is not the result of stinginess or orneriness (typical stereotypes attributed to Republicans) but is something Republicans can't help, there's no reason why society shouldn't tolerate Republicans in the military or even high elected office -- provided they don't flaunt their political beliefs.
For many Americans, the discovery opens a window on a different future. In a few years, gene therapy might eradicate Republicanism altogether.
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Congrats to Fox for a well executed political propaganda stunt. Seems like they got the response they wanted
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Good god these ultra "protect you from your rights" fanatical lefties really need to step the hell back and seriously consider MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS!
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Well, I'm a little confused why every topic becomes a left vs right thing.

I have a 7 and 10 year old. Call me an irrational overprotective parent if you want, but I'll be damned if I'm going to leave them unattended in the car out in the parking lot. What's wrong with taking your kids into the store with you? Afraid they will act up? Well be a freaking parent for once. Teach them a little discipline maybe? For that matter get them interested in your home project. Teach them to build something and be creative. At least use them for slave labor and make them carry stuff. Heck, getting someone else to carry stuff has been a primary motivation to have kids for thousands of years.

Why the heck do we even have Dvd players's in the car? That's a rant I'd like to see someone make.
And beyond that, kids do stupid stuff sometimes. You can't be troubled to take them into the store with you, but you are going to leave them unattended in a car where they can damage it, or other cars in the lot?

On the other hand, I agree it's stupid arresting this guy. Last I checked stupudity and poor paranting aren't illegal. This doesn't quite fit my defintion of neglect. But he shouldn't have left them either.

As to why it's news, it's news for the same reason that kids getting kidnapped is news. If this van had been carjacked and his kids molested or killed it would be news. We'd all be clicking our teeth at the sad state of the world today that you can't leave your kids sitting in the car while you run into a store to get some nails.

Or if you are of the "It's stupid they arrested this guy." persuation I would think you would want gross abuse of police authority to be news.

Either way it's news. At least by the standards of local news in a country with an overabundance of 24 hour news networks. It's not exactly earth shattering national news level stuff.

We used to play in the woods when I was little too. But life was different then. But we didn't play in the parking lot. And if we tried to play in Dad's car we got yelled at.

Car's aren't daycare centers, and Dvd's aren't babysitters.

Be a parent.

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