.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Air Assault Task Force- Save $8.00
World Supremacy- Save $10.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 05:06 PM
Cipher7071's Avatar

Cipher7071 Cipher7071 is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 482
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cipher7071 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

Baron, do you mean it's a button to order a ship to sweep mines at a certain location? Similar to ordering one to lay satellites at a certain location?
__________________
The great tragedy of science...the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. (T. H. Huxley)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 05:14 PM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

I thought the reason for the sweep button was basically a manual override for the "Ships should not move into known mine fields" empire option. Normally when you have that checked your ships won't move into a minefield, even if given the "move to order", right? I may have that wrong, that's just alsways been my assumption.
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 05:23 PM
Cipher7071's Avatar

Cipher7071 Cipher7071 is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 482
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cipher7071 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

That would make sense, Geo.
__________________
The great tragedy of science...the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. (T. H. Huxley)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 06:17 PM
Parasite's Avatar

Parasite Parasite is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 464
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Parasite is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

I have had a minesweeper in a hex mined by an ally. When we went to war, I could not sweep the mines in that hex. I believe I didn't even get the button because the ships were fleeted. After removing them from the fleet, I swept mines in the hex to no effect.

The mines did not get removed while I stayed in that hex.

I was unsure of what happened at the time, but it looks like the discussion here explains it.
__________________
I thought of the sun as a big bright ball of something that produced an intense absence of darkness. Alan Dean Foster No More Crystal Tears
A++SeGdy$+-++Fr?C++++Cst+SfAi--Mm-MpTS---SsROPw++Fq++Nd++++RpG++Mm++Bb
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old February 3rd, 2004, 06:36 PM
Fyron's Avatar

Fyron Fyron is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Southern CA, USA
Posts: 18,394
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Fyron is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: How minesweeper work

That is not a very useful feature then.
__________________
It's not whether you win or lose that counts: it's how much pain you inflict along the way.
--- SpaceEmpires.net --- RSS --- SEnet ModWorks --- SEIV Modding 101 Tutorial
--- Join us in the #SpaceEmpires IRC channel on the Freenode IRC network.
--- Due to restrictively low sig limits, you must visit this link to view the rest of my signature.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old February 4th, 2004, 01:50 AM
Grandpa Kim's Avatar

Grandpa Kim Grandpa Kim is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 858
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Grandpa Kim is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

Geo, you can order ships to move to a known minefield and they will move to it. Trusting little buggers aren't they?

But I agree with Fyron. It looks like the sweep mines button serves no useful purpose. The one thing it can do can also be done with a simple move to order.
__________________
Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, slag.

http://se4-gaming.net/
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old February 4th, 2004, 01:48 PM
Slynky's Avatar

Slynky Slynky is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,499
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Slynky is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

I would tend to disagree with both of you.

Though not necessarily useful, I suspect, assuming I understand its purpose correctly, it could provide the following use:

Let's suppose you do NOT want to turn off the "ships should avoid minefields" switch (in order to prevent a string of ships, for example, moving through the same minefield one after another). But, let's also suppose you have a fleet assembled with sweepers in it that you DO want to enter and sweep a minefield. Here is the use for the button.
__________________
ALLIANCE, n. In international politics, the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other's pocket that they cannot separately plunder a third. (Ambrose Bierce)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old February 4th, 2004, 04:34 PM
Asmala's Avatar

Asmala Asmala is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Finland
Posts: 864
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Asmala is on a distinguished road
Default Re: How minesweeper work

Quote:
Originally posted by Slynky:
Let's suppose you do NOT want to turn off the "ships should avoid minefields" switch (in order to prevent a string of ships, for example, moving through the same minefield one after another). But, let's also suppose you have a fleet assembled with sweepers in it that you DO want to enter and sweep a minefield. Here is the use for the button.
You can still use the move to command even if you have the "ships should avoid minefields" switch on. Just order the ships to move to the sector in question. You can also remove the tagged minefield using Ctrl-R.
__________________
'The surest sign that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.' Calvin and Hobbes
Are you tough enough to be the King of the Hill?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old February 4th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Fyron's Avatar

Fyron Fyron is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Southern CA, USA
Posts: 18,394
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Fyron is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: How minesweeper work

Exactly. It is redundant, and therefore useless.
__________________
It's not whether you win or lose that counts: it's how much pain you inflict along the way.
--- SpaceEmpires.net --- RSS --- SEnet ModWorks --- SEIV Modding 101 Tutorial
--- Join us in the #SpaceEmpires IRC channel on the Freenode IRC network.
--- Due to restrictively low sig limits, you must visit this link to view the rest of my signature.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.