Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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The cylons are now 'humanoid' (think replicants from BladeRunner) and are now 'defending the 'colony' instead of searching for the lost colony and the mythical planet called earth.

in other words, the cylons are no longer imperialistic robots?

i can't come up with words for the apparent suckiness.

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Yup this day an age ever classic is being rewritten by politically correct arseholes with poor imaginations and weak bladder control.

The robots were offended by the negative depiction that the original Battlestar Galactica series. The touchie feelie, politically correct, organic eating vegitarian tree huggers that are the writing staff for the Sci-Fi channel more than likely opted for this revisionist view of this classic TV series because they are so shallowly self centered as to believe they are gods gift to man.

If the Sci-Fi channel is sooooooooooooooo stupid as to do a revisionisic rewrite of the fundamental principal and story of battlestar galactica then they should be ridiculed to the end of time itself.

Bad Sci-Fi Channel! Bad!

[Loser]

I believe, in the original miniseries, or at least in the screenplay I read, the Cylons were reptilian in the beginning.

If I had cable, I'd watch the new BG just to see if I could find any remaining fragments of the LDS (yes I got that in the right order).

[Starhawk]

Pardon the oppinion of a newbie but I beleive you have all been misinformed.

I watched "Inside Battlestar Galactica" on Sci-Fi and it looks just like a revamped Version of the original nothing more nothing less.

The colonials BUILT the Cylons in this Version, I don't know if that's how it was in the original as I wasn't around back then but I think this sounds cool.

The Cylons come in two types in the miniseries they come in a wicked looking battledroid that is very obviously a mechanoid and they also come in a "sex slave/regular slave" kind of humanoid form that the Colonials built. The Cylons then rebelled against the Colonials and went all Pearl Harbor on the Colonial fleet.

Now the Galactica is the Last remaining warship in the Colonial navy and is guarding a rag tag fleet of civilians towards "unknown space" which might be earth for all we know.

As for "boomer" and "starbuck" being women now, personally i have nothing really against it since they are not adding them as "love interests" of any of the male characters, I personally love a kickass kinda lady and think it would be cool to see em. (and I always thought starbuck sounded kinda female anyway).
But the reason they are turning the males into women instead of adding new female pilots is because they "according to them" wanted these characters to be just as important as the males and since most of the galactica series focused on Starbuck, Apollo and Boomer the best way for them was to turn the two other guys into girls and then add new male characters. They are getting modern by the fact that women are now fighter pilots and soldiers and not just the bambi the love godess characters of the 1970's.

Heh well that's the oppinion of a guy who was raised around kickass girls since i was a wee boy anyway :-).

[ October 06, 2003, 19:49: Message edited by: Starhawk ]

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Starhawk:
Pardon the oppinion of a newbie but I beleive you have all been misinformed.

I watched "Inside Battlestar Galactica" on Sci-Fi and it looks just like a revamped Version of the original nothing more nothing less.

The colonials BUILT the Cylons in this Version, I don't know if that's how it was in the original as I wasn't around back then but I think this sounds cool.

The Cylons come in two types in the miniseries they come in a wicked looking battledroid that is very obviously a mechanoid and they also come in a "sex slave/regular slave" kind of humanoid form that the Colonials built. The Cylons then rebelled against the Colonials and went all Pearl Harbor on the Colonial fleet.

Now the Galactica is the Last remaining warship in the Colonial navy and is guarding a rag tag fleet of civilians towards "unknown space" which might be earth for all we know.

As for "boomer" and "starbuck" being women now, personally i have nothing really against it since they are not adding them as "love interests" of any of the male characters, I personally love a kickass kinda lady and think it would be cool to see em. (and I always thought starbuck sounded kinda female anyway).
But the reason they are turning the males into women instead of adding new female pilots is because they "according to them" wanted these characters to be just as important as the males and since most of the galactica series focused on Starbuck, Apollo and Boomer the best way for them was to turn the two other guys into girls and then add new male characters. They are getting modern by the fact that women are now fighter pilots and soldiers and not just the bambi the love godess characters of the 1970's.

Heh well that's the oppinion of a guy who was raised around kickass girls since i was a wee boy anyway :-).

Welcome and thanks for the info.

You really should watch the old Version from the late 70's. It debute on September 17th 1978 I believe and was 3 hours long.

Women fighter pilots is nothing new to BSG, as they had them in great numbers in the original series.

The idea of making Starbuck a women is completely lame by any definition. I liked the boomer character, a no bull get it done kind of guy, but if they want to make that character a women, no harm no foul, but Starbuck was Apollos best friend. Changing the character to a women has only one purpose, love interest. Nuff said. (Think 7 of 9 - TaPal - Troi)

The original series was very exciting to watch. The series BSG 1980 was a f--ked up scaled down cost effective POS series. However in that series we did get to meet the first Human Cylon.

The original Cylon race was raptillian and they created the machines to kill the humans. The raptillian cyclons all died off for some reason, not really discussed in the series, leaving the machines to fend for themselves. Ultimatly the Cyclons set up the Colonials and obliterate their fleet say for a handful of Battlestars, the Galactica and the Peguses were two that were featured in the series. The Peguses later was presumed destroyed after she engaged three Cyclon Basestars destroying them all.

The other ships were mentioned in fan lore and books.

If you can get the original BSG series on DVD, and I think you can now, you should invest in it. It was a very good series even by todays standards. The title track is still considered by many to be one of the best ever created.

[Starhawk]

I have managed to watch a great many of the Original BSG episodes recently including the pilot episodes and I must say.....I liked it up until they found Terra.

Other then that I do think that Sci-Fi is sticking pretty much to the storyline cept for Starbuck....and I didn't really like that character much I liked Apallo more.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

so, they make it the colonials fault the cylon's are bad robots?

'oh, but he/she had rotten parents/freinds/small furry animals'.

so now, the colonails are the bad guy's?

anyone want to start a petition to the sci-fi channel to stop them from ruining a great show?

^calmest thing i could think of^

[Prince Xizor]

Originally posted by SpaceBadger:
Try to look at it without 23+ years of hindsight. When Star Wars first came out, one of the best things about it for us kids (I was 14) was the special effects - the ships in space, the bLaster bolts, the light-sabres - all a quantum leap beyond what we were used to seeing in Star Trek re-runs on late night TV, or on Space: 1999. These were pretty much the only referents we had, and without VCRs we did not have the opportunity to study them in detail, we could only try and catch them when they happened to show up on TV.

From that point of view, yes, Battlestar Galactica certainly did a pretty good impression of Star Wars. The ships had a similar look to them; the appearance of ships in space, and ship combat, was very similar; and I think the hand-weapon effects were similar, too.

I didn't get to see Galactica much, only when I was over at the home of someone who lived in town and had cable TV, as it was on a network that we could not recieve by broadcast (ABC, maybe?), but I remember thinking back then that it would be so cool to be able to watch it regularly, like getting Star Wars on TV. (I watched Star Wars three times the summer it came out, then did not get to see it again in any form until Empire Strikes Back came out several years later; did not see the original Star Wars again until it was shown on TV about the time that Jedi came out, I think. My kids have them all on VHS and watch them whenever they get a notion, and think nothing of it.)

So anyway, yeah, I understand exactly what Xizor was saying, and agree with him.

SpaceBadger

Thanks, SpaceBadger! Couldn't have explained myself any better than that.

Of course when A New Hope was first released in 1977, I was only a year old. The first Star Wars film I saw in theaters was Return of the Jedi in '83. The previous two I saw at my neighbor's house; she babysat for my brothers and I, and happened to have a VCR (my parents didn't get one until the mid-80s). So I was pretty young when first watching Star Wars, Galactica, and I also remember a show called Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (which has re-aired on-and-off on Sci-Fi). And at that age, you're too young to really understand the story. You just wait for the scenes with starfighter dogfights and bLaster bolts darting across the screen. Naturally you perceive obvious similarities between Star Wars and Galactica: Cylon centurions resemble Imperial Stormtroopers (and their mechanical appearance distinguishes them as the "bad guys", as opposed to the "good guys" who are mainly human in appearance); similar weapons and ships; the Cylons and Imperials always tend to outnumber the "good guys", who more than make up for it through heroics; and so on. The Last point you find in any fantasy epic, but Star Wars and Galactica were my first exposure to this kind of thing. Which is probably why even today I prefer space fantasy over the Harry Potter / Lord of the Rings varieties.

[Atrocities]

Comparing BSG to SW is like comparing Air Combat in California to Air Combat in Florida. Space fighter combat in both BSG and SW are simular because that is how we preceive fighter combat for space. The fact that they are simular is by design and concept. No one has the right to "claim" the style as their own.

Vipers look nothing like X-Wings IMHO. Cylon Fighters look nothing like TIE Fighters. A Battlestar and a Basestar have no resemeblence to anything seen in Star Wars. Lucas lost his case, and we lost BSG. Thank George.

Remember BSG was sued by the guy who made Howard the Duck.

Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, now that was a nifty show. Corney by todays standards, but in the day it was a great Thursday night flick. I still love thinking about Erin (Wilma) for she was one very attactive women and I guess she still is. Do any of you remember the episode where Whilma and another women were locked inside of a hot room filled with steam? Ohhhh ya baby, for a 13 year old that was like pure gold.

Any one here recently listen to BSG Main title theme? I need to get that on P2P as I can not find it on any CD any where.

[ October 07, 2003, 10:15: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Prince Xizor]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, now that was a nifty show. Corney by todays standards, but in the day it was a great Thursday night flick. I still love thinking about Erin (Wilma) for she was one very attactive women and I guess she still is. Do any of you remember the episode where Whilma and another women were locked inside of a hot room filled with steam? Ohhhh ya baby, for a 13 year old that was like pure gold.

*nods*
"Planet of the Slave Girls" had to be the best episode for that reason alone.

[Prince Xizor]

Good news for fans of the original BSG, and those of us too cheap to buy the DVD (I don't even have a DVD player yet ): SciFi will be airing selected episodes from the original series all day next Monday 10/13, 9am-5pm EST, starting with the 3-hour series premiere. So get your VCRs ready!

"By your command!"

http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/ind...TICA&x=192&y=2