MP Game - "Throne Of Heavens", veterans and experienced players only (full)

[Stormbinder]

Maltrease said:



BTW - I claim victory over Mictan.

High Council of Vanheim witnesses and supports this claim. Mictlan is clearly on the verge of total defeat by Marignon. Now you have 2 votes out of 5. Find one more and you'll win!

[quantum_mechani]

I'm glad Ry'leh and Mrignon finally spoke their voice in this,
I am happy to continue the game until their nations are ground to dust.

Storm, you don't seem to be getting it, but I will try one more time. We would have allied against you even if we had never thought of turning it into allied victory. Your diplomacy had annoyed us both a lot, and the graphs showed you had become quite powerful. So the issues really are totally separate, you would be facing the same thing if everyone agreed to no allied victory. Unless, of course, you don't believe me that this was our main motivation, which I suppose you are free to do. I never said I now liked the end game, but then again I never hated it either, only preffered the early-middle game.

As far as what to do, how about we continue the war, myself and mictlan vs. Van, Ry'leh and Marignon? If there comes at time when the surviving players are becoming bored, we will deal with it then. Unless Storm disbelieves me about the motivations for the war, this seems to solve everyone's issues.

[Stormbinder]

quantum_mechani said:
I'm glad Ry'leh and Mrignon finally spoke their voice in this,
I am happy to continue the game until their nations are ground to dust.

Storm, you don't seem to be getting it, but I will try one more time. We would have allied against you even if we had never thought of turning it into allied victory. Your diplomacy had annoyed us both a lot, and the graphs showed you had become quite powerful. So the issues really are totally separate, you would be facing the same thing if everyone agreed to no allied victory. Unless, of course, you don't believe me that this was our main motivation, which I suppose you are free to do. I never said I now liked the end game, but then again I never hated it either, only preffered the early-middle game.

As far as what to do, how about we continue the war, myself and mictlan vs. Van, Ry'leh and Marignon? If there comes at time when the surviving players are becoming bored, we will deal with it then. Unless Storm disbelieves me about the motivations for the war, this seems to solve everyone's issues.

Qunatum, I think you are the one who is not geting it.

You said yourself that your main motivation for going into war was to avoid long endgames that you hate. You already confirmed that my quotes of your saying just that were correct. Are you going to try to backpedal and deny it now? Same for Archeolept. Also I don't think you have read my previous letter carefully. As I said, my own actions over Last 5 turns would be very different if not for your "joint" victory. I would not attack Mictlan for example after you attacked me. Instead I would quickly wipe your armies with all my SCs in the north, while spending all my money and gems on summoning troops and building castles in the south, to slow Micltan down when he will finally choose to interfere. You have absolutely nothing to stop the full might of my SCs, artifacts and armies. Unlike Mictlan, you also have almost no stealth troops to avoid my ghost riders/teleporting AQs/pretender/Vans. If the war with Mictlan would start even 3 turns later than it did, by that time all of your best troops and SCs would be gone. Than I would have to face mostly Mictlan, at least for the close future.

And if you think I am braging, think about what I did to your on your northern front over the Last 5 turns. And FYI all this time I have been using only 20-25% of my resourses against you. The rest of my forces were tied on the Mictlan front. By yourself you were never a dangerious enemy for Vanheim. Only Mictlan was.


I am not saying this to insult you, just trying to make you understand that things would go very differently if not for your "joint victory" agreement with Mictlan. So saying "ok, let's pretend nothing happened during Last 5 turns and continue as it is but under different name" does not make any sense to me.

Anyway, if you want to continue this game, I am sending my passwords to Maltrease. He will be the new keeper of the gamem if he wants to. Also if he wants, he can also take control over my Vanheim. I have reset the game for the Last time.


P.S. BTW if Quantum is serious about withdrewing from their "joint victory" agreement and honestly agrees to return to FFA game format, than the only logical choice for him would be to attack Mictlan immideatly, in alliance with all other nations. As of this turn , there is no chance in hell for any combination of in-game nations to beat Mictlan/Pangeya alliance, no matter what label they will put on top of it or how they spin it. At the same time Mictlan is much stronger than Pangeya. I would say that if all nations would combine their might against Mictlan and will cooperate very efficiently, they might have a chance agaisnt him, although Mictlan would still have an advantage. So QM, if you are indeed honestly want to try to win the game instead of this "joint victory" crap that you said is no longer valid, your only possible course of action is to withdrew from your allaince, ally with everybody else, and try to stop Mictlan before he gobble too much territory. Frankly you would still most likely fail since Mictlan is too strong by now, but this is the only real possibility to prevent Mictlan from wining the game, if you are indeed honest about your rediscovered commitment to FFA.

[Maltrease]

The councile of Marigon has come across a new powerful artififact and the necassary runes to make use of it.

With this power it has been able to take direct control of all nations. You will notice that all wealth and magic gems have been reappropriated to "aid" in our cause.

All independent (other nations) units have been disbanded, and the world has finally taken its first steps towards a Lasting piece.

The world IS a safer place now that Marigon has taken control. Soon we issue a new order explaining all the rights and freedoms you no longer have. Fear not though, you will be able to find all the peace and happiness that you need by worshipping our God.

I understand that some of you may not like this outcome, so the councile has decided to allow anyone to appeal this decision. Simply send a four page essay detailing your objections to Maltrease and he will exclude your from the hostile mind control take over.

The dead line for receiving this essay is 10pm EST on Oct 7, 2004.

[Stormbinder]

Maltrease said:
The councile of Marigon has come across a new powerful artififact and the necassary runes to make use of it.

With this power it has been able to take direct control of all nations. You will notice that all wealth and magic gems have been reappropriated to "aid" in our cause.

All independent (other nations) units have been disbanded, and the world has finally taken its first steps towards a Lasting piece.

The world IS a safer place now that Marigon has taken control. Soon we issue a new order explaining all the rights and freedoms you no longer have. Fear not though, you will be able to find all the peace and happiness that you need by worshipping our God.

I understand that some of you may not like this outcome, so the councile has decided to allow anyone to appeal this decision. Simply send a four page essay detailing your objections to Maltrease and he will exclude your from the hostile mind control take over.

The dead line for receiving this essay is 10pm EST on Oct 7, 2004.

LOL. Good roleplaying Maltrease. The fate of these Realms is in your hands now. Good luck!

[archaeolept]

I don't know why I should be at all surprised by Storm's hypocrisy and idiocy. It certainly doesn't seem to be a surprise to many others. I'm forced to consider him as having some borderline pathological personality disorder. Frankly, I hope he just stays away from anywhere I am. Its quite clear why, while Norfleet was a vile cheater, so many people nevertheless preferred him to stormwhiner.

As to this game, it now seems to be a bit soured. However, it might be interesting to turn it into a little war as per Maltrease's suggestion.

Perhaps a few more days break to see what we do w/ this? Malt, could you reset the hosting - just stop and restart should do it. When storm changed the hosting Last I thought he had force hosted a new turn, and so I connected and uploaded a completely incomplete turn. thanks.

[Stormbinder]

ROFLOL. Thank you Arcahe, you have made my day. Do you think that hiting your opponent with words such as "borderline pathological personality disorder" makes you look very intelligent? Trust me, it doesn't. It only makes you look childish and silly.

I am not going to waste my time on pissing contest with you. I find that observing you spiting lame insults with foam at your mouth is much more amusing.

Perhaps a few more days break to see what we do w/ this? Malt, could you reset the hosting - just stop and restart should do it. When storm changed the hosting Last I thought he had force hosted a new turn, and so I connected and uploaded a completely incomplete turn. thanks.

I have no control over your paranoya Archae. I have already reseted hosting twice, to avoid any stale turns in case other people will want to continue this game. I've also posted about it on the board, twice. You maybe the one to who loves to screw the game for other people, if you don't like something. A small hint for you my friend - don't judge other people by yourself.
Perhaps you should take some anxiety medication, huh?

[archaeolept]

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I am not going to waste my time on pissing contest with you

that would be great. bye.

[Stormbinder]

archaeolept said:
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that would be great.

You are welcome.

[archaeolept]

you forgot to quote in full. the "bye" was especially pertinant. and, in fact, I thought exceptionally polite given the circumstances.