Othaglot and Cane - Story Thread - Page 16

Baron Munchausen · #**151** March 14th, 2004, 03:29 AM

The frames and JS don't work in Mozilla 1.5 for some reason, but do work in IE 5.5 (my 'old' browser). It's not that they are 'broken' but that they don't appear at all! No frames. Just blank space. This is a puzzle, since it's Mozilla which is 'standards compliant' while IE has all sorts of quirks. But then... nearly everyone has learned to use the IE style quirks so maybe that's why Mozilla can't understand the code.

Edit:

Actually, it doesn't work in IE either. All I get is that title graphic that Primitive is so impressed with. The navigation bar doesn't update to show the chapters so you can't access them.

[ March 14, 2004, 01:35: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

Krsqk · #**152** March 14th, 2004, 04:32 AM

I can't get any of the multi-page stories to load. The javascript loads the summary page, but none of the chapters will load. I have IE 6.0 and have tried full permission for all JS, and still no dice.

And I'd looked forward to this update for a long time, too.

Suicide Junkie · #**153** March 14th, 2004, 05:38 AM

I was getting script errors whenever I tried to click into one of the chapters; permission denied for something.

After switching browsers back and forth and lots of reloading and random clicking, it suddenly started working.

Great new chapters!

dogscoff · #**154** March 14th, 2004, 11:16 AM

dammit... i see what you all mean... sometimes you click on a chapter number and it works, sometimes it throws an error at you.
EDIT: Strangely, it seems to work pretty reliably if you play around with the quote-o-matic first. Click a few new quotes until you get one that refers to O&C, then click the link in the quote. The chapters will all be available.

I've no idea why this should be. I'll try to get it all fixed.

And Primitive, thanks. It was originally an entry for Fyron's image contest but then SE.net went down for a while and the contest never came back up, so I decided to reuse it here. I'm not sure we'll ever get to see that scene in this story, but it looks pretty cool=-)

[ March 14, 2004, 13:11: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

dogscoff · #**155** March 15th, 2004, 09:35 AM

*BUMP* Just for all you ppl who don't log on over the weeked.

A new chapter of O&C is now available on my new website - http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/fiction.
I've also rehashed some of the more recent chapters and expanded them, so I recommend re-reading from at least chapter 23. There'a a neat new "Story so far" feature to help you recap.

Comments about the site, the story or anything else in this thread, please. I hope to start work on Chapter 27 today. Hopefully I can start being productive again with this story, for a while at least.

EDIT: Puke- I think I know what "grey patches" you are talking about- it's down to "dirty" jpegs- the price we pay for high compression I'm afraid. Maybe I can improve them, but right now I'm afraid to touch anything=-)

[ March 15, 2004, 09:02: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

dogscoff · #**156** March 15th, 2004, 10:57 AM

Hooray! I seemd to have fixed the problem. Not sure how- I just deleted everything off the ftp site and then copied it all back up- but the chapter listings and the Courier stories now seem to be working fine. Wierd.

Enjoy, everyone=-)

That URL again:
http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/fiction/

Puke · #**157** March 15th, 2004, 05:25 PM

no, its not dirty jpegs. its the background screen color. my desktop is black and my default background window color is light gray. this reduces contrast and makes my screen easier to stare at for hours on end. in fact, all my windown colors are 'muted' to make it easier on the eyes.

I have little rectangles of background color inbetween "change" and "Othaglor&Cane", between "A Texrak Tale" and "Influences" and another larger grey rectangle from below "influences" to the bottom of the left hand bar. its because you set the background color to white on the rest of the screen, but not on that lefthand bar.

I see what you mean about the compression artifacts on the JPEGS. it is not those that I am talking about. Set your own background window color (the color that you want to appear in text boxes and explorer windows and such to a light grey (or any other color besides white) and you will see exactly what I mean.

Baron Munchausen · #**158** March 15th, 2004, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dogscoff:
Hooray! I seemd to have fixed the problem. Not sure how- I just deleted everything off the ftp site and then copied it all back up- but the chapter listings and the Courier stories now seem to be working fine. Wierd.

Enjoy, everyone=-)

That URL again:
http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/fiction/

It still doesn't work in Mozilla. The story buttons are just graphics on the page, there is no 'clickable' link behind them.

But at least it does now work in IE. I had checked the JS error Last night and it said 'access denied' so I guess there was some permission problem with JS versus a simple HTML connect. I manually typed the file names reported and read the chapters Last night, though.

At least for future chapters I can now just load-up IE to read them.

dogscoff · #**159** March 15th, 2004, 10:05 PM

Puke: I'll sort that tomorrow, should be simple enough. two words in the stylesheet should do it.

Baron: I'll see what I can do, I should be able to fish out a couple of decent web resources on cross-browser compatibility. Bear in mind though that it's something of a miracle that it works as far as it does, given that (a) This is the project I used to teach myself javascript and css from scratch (b) I approached it without any kind of planning other than "that would be cool" and (c) like every other kind of code I produce, it's wierd, kludgy, eccentric and probably about 3 times bigger than it needs to be. (But it's mine) But yeah, I'll see what I can do. Maybe I'll even try browser testing it myself rather than waiting for you to do it=-)

Anyway, now the site is fully functional in at least one browser, do you guys have any comments on the content as opposed to the container?

Alneyan · #**160** March 15th, 2004, 11:03 PM

It doesn't work either with Firefox 1.7 (former Firebird, so based on Mozilla and one of the latest Version around), but the mothballed IE 5 or 6 (the one who ships with Windows XP) works fine. I think Mozilla handles layers in another way than IE, so it might be the cause of the problem as clicking on the buttons doesn't do anything.

As for the stories, I have just started reading Othaglot and Cane, and I do enjoy the read so far. Not much more to say for now, as I have only finished the first two chapters.