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April 11th, 2022, 10:20 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Don,
Can confirm yours about TOS-1 as well through my sources.
I to have seen reports of units using both in a " combined arms" tactical situation. These guys (And I use this generically for both sexes as both are fighting hard.) are fighting a better tactical battle and plain " out foxing" the Russians.
I've said for years out here they are better than most- I'm leaving it at that.
Now another strand to the Ukrainian " Spyder Web" from the Polish Govt. earlier today their time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...16bc79ff6545a2
Moscow didn't like him, or his policies and I remember that crash as it made world news and there were immediate suspicions then of assassination.
And the world keeps revolving.
To think this all started for me with OPLOT-M.
Looking back, I'm sure Don is thrilled about that!?!   ( Morale booster for you know who!)
Regards,
Pat
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April 11th, 2022, 10:55 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Pat there was talk about the Germans Selling 100 PzH 2000 to Ukraine
https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/822908.html
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Great..... ANOTHER unit to enter. I have a feeling some of this is going to end up chewing on my derriere
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April 11th, 2022, 11:42 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Don,
Seen that to just wasn't sure about it.
Well, I'm going to " hang my butt out there" to by SUGGUSTING the tanks might be the LEOPARD 1A5 POSSIBALY equipped with the 120mm/L44.
The LEOPARD 1A5 is the ONLY ONE in that series designed to mount that weapon. The weapon was tested on that platform and a further development of it came with the LEOPARD 1A6 which didn't get beyond the Prototype Stage due to the LEOPARD 2 fielding in numbers that the LEOPARD 1A6 wouldn't have made practical sense due to improvements of the former and cost. The following is USA TRACOC source both listed A15/6 at the bottom
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/mediawi...ttle_Tank_(MBT) .
I might've one upped you here!?! 
More on this later, got get someone lunch and to the airport!!
Regards,
Pat
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April 11th, 2022, 12:13 PM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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April 11th, 2022, 12:38 PM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
If you are really interested in Smolensk Severny 10.04.2010 aerodrome Air Disaster now rather word assassination is more correct. In the light of today published materials by Smolensk commission. Here you can check this yourself and create own opinion! Here is short video and summary about this in English
https://tvpworld.com/59571619/smolen...igation-report
And here biggest repository with documents data university publications in English about this
https://www.smolenskcrashnews.com/
Work about Smolensk was done by commission last 6 years to found the true in case of many lies by peoples inside Poland from Polish government at that time just from the beginning in 2010 and also that main evidence wreckage of aircraft is still in Russian hands and Russians will not give them in foreseeable future (probably never).
And, yes war crimes in Ukraine put new light on that event 12 years ago and debunk a myth that Russian state was not able do this because is just a normal state with normal "politicians". That also open question about "politicians" inside Poland and extent of their collaboration during that event with Russia?
Here https://tvpworld.com/59565788/memory...slaw-kaczynski
BTW. "Poisoned Fruit of Katyn Masacre" Genocides without punishment made perpetrators more brave and also people from next generations looks back and will said we can do the same. Here is opinion of Polish President that lack of "Nürenberg" style trials for crimes of Communism created this new genocides on Ukraine and we repeat our history again in circles. Video with English subtitles
https://tvpworld.com/59562999/we-mus...on-katyn-crime
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April 12th, 2022, 09:29 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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April 12th, 2022, 11:24 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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My favorite part was the last paragraph.
Basically the Ukrainians went on vacations, had gifts or whatever by the FSB and decided to not betray their country.
Hilarious.
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April 12th, 2022, 02:43 PM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Many of you will know about Russkiy Mir.
Posted for those that don't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WEBwsuQf0
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April 12th, 2022, 02:54 PM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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More on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F7UQUsFQgQ
and what is said at around the 3 min mark may be true..... or not but that's all part of the "game". If the other side isn't already paranoid.... no problem.... just hint at things like that
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