Conceptual Balance Series (Mod)

[Daynarr]

So, could Asynja get Healing (50) ability and recuperation (to heal herself)? It would give her something special and occasionally useful. It seems to be thematic as well.

The question is, would that made her desirable enough to be selected as pretender.

[Truper]

Recuperation is a good suggestion, since Vanheim has no access to any other recuperating pretender. Vanheim's choices overall are limited, in fact. Many's the time I've lamented that they don't get to choose the Prince of Death or the Fountain of Blood, to name just two.

[Zen]

I have done a change.

Newest Version 1.72

www.techno-mage.com/~zen/conceptp172.zip

Changes:

Asyjna = -2Air, +Stealth, +Glamour, Basecost: 100, +Astral, +Nature, +Recuperation

Arch Mage (Lobster) Basecost: 10, StartDom: 2

[Reverend Zombie]

I'm hosting a game using 1.72 Version of Zen's Pretender Mod.

The thread with game details is located in the MP forum.

[Vynd]

Zen said:

Arch Mage (Lobster) Basecost: 10, StartDom: 2

How about we change the Arch Mage Lobster by getting rid of the stupid human rider guy and just making him the Lobster God! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif[/img]

Or maybe... The Crawdaddy!

[Cainehill]

Yeh! I mean - how stupid is an archmage who can't figure out, "Hey, if I get off my lobster, I can go up on land"?

And if he's the Lobster God, or even the Crawfish .... He's better eating.

[Turin]

Nice job you are doing there, here is a bit of criticism .

1)the sacred statue is pretty useless compared to the oracle. She has +80 hp, poison resistance and gets new paths for 10 points less.

The oracle has + 1 astral, gets 2 magic gems and costs 30 points less.
hp and poison resistance aren�t that useful for an immobile pretender and as long as you take less than 5 magic paths the orcale is cheaper/equally cheap.
So the +1 astral and the two gems make the oracle pretty much a nobrainer.
I would suggest giving the statue earth 1 or 2.

2)nataraja is also useless.
Compare it to a wyrm. wyrm has twice as much hp/regeneration, far better stats, and costs the same.

nataraja has more leadership and attacks. At least give the nataraja some magic weapons.
a heroic quickness effect would be nice if that would be moddable.

[Zen]

Turin said:
Nice job you are doing there, here is a bit of criticism .

1)the sacred statue is pretty useless compared to the oracle. She has +80 hp, poison resistance and gets new paths for 10 points less.

The oracle has + 1 astral, gets 2 magic gems and costs 30 points less.
hp and poison resistance aren�t that useful for an immobile pretender and as long as you take less than 5 magic paths the orcale is cheaper/equally cheap.
So the +1 astral and the two gems make the oracle pretty much a nobrainer.
I would suggest giving the statue earth 1 or 2.

Interesting feedback. My goal with the Sacred Statue was to give a, stay at home rainbow. With it's ability to Teleport it can get into battle if it so chooses. I may have to look at it more.

2)nataraja is also useless.
Compare it to a wyrm. wyrm has twice as much hp/regeneration, far better stats, and costs the same.

nataraja has more leadership and attacks. At least give the nataraja some magic weapons.
a heroic quickness effect would be nice if that would be moddable.

Interesting feedback. I don't agree with you on your point that the Wyrm vs the Natarajah (however the Wyrm is a good pretender, to be sure). The slotability of the Natarajah as well as the ability to upgrade throughout the game makes me feel he is priced right in comparison with the others. I would also venture to say that he is still within the top tier (if not the top slot) of SC pretenders.

If you feel he is 'useless' could you give me a little more feedback as to why?

[Graeme Dice]

Turin said:
2)nataraja is also useless.
Compare it to a wyrm. wyrm has twice as much hp/regeneration, far better stats, and costs the same.

The Nataraja can also wear boots, armour, and wield four weapons. The arms alone more than make up for the difference.

[deccan]

Turin said:
2)nataraja is also useless.
Compare it to a wyrm. wyrm has twice as much hp/regeneration, far better stats, and costs the same.

Heh? I thought nataraja cost 0 or did zen change that too?