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December 6th, 2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: So near yet so very, very, very far
After much pondering and wondering, Man has decided to send the following answer to Skaven: 'We hate your guts'. Do I look like a dastard bastard of the 'dagger in your back' traitor type? (That, and I've taken heavy losses without actually fighting anybody. I shudder to think what would happen if I met a real army.)
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December 6th, 2007, 11:36 PM
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Man or louse ?
We Skaven find ourselves wrestling with alien concepts such as "pity" and "shame" when we look to our eastern neighbour.
We Skaven didn't think, for a moment, Man had the courage to fight its never ending slide into complete and utter irrelevance. For that is the fate of Man.
For now Man remains a vassal/slave of Ulm. The seers predict after the fall of Skavenblight you will cease to have any utility at all to your Ulmish masters except as possessing a couple of magic sites that Ulm covets and will look to make its own.
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December 7th, 2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Man or louse ?
Erk, plaguerats. They are seriously nasty. I was really really lucky I only had PD there when you attacked with them.
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December 7th, 2007, 08:37 PM
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Re: Man or louse ?
For the love of Goddess, will someone *please* shut down the bloody rat speakers? Their ramblings are getting tiresome... though we may slaughter their men... their creatures by the drove, so do they. Such is the harsh fate of the poor human nations, where mages are few (I'm just above Ulm in that department, it seems) and troops are... well, where's my infantry?
Right. Let's hope Skaven doesn't have any other army to throw my way, 'cuz I'm only any real good at taking down PD.
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December 8th, 2007, 12:38 AM
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Re: Man or louse ?
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llamabeast said:
Erk, plaguerats. They are seriously nasty. I was really really lucky I only had PD there when you attacked with them.
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They were sneaking not attacking - that is the problem with low morale, low value stealth +0 units - PD finds them easily and then they die.
We note another case of Ulmish cowardice - run, diseased man things, run from the walls of Skavenblight.
Those who wish to harm Ulm - we continue to take donations. Death gems would be lovely as would earth.
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December 10th, 2007, 02:57 AM
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Rats to go down with ship
HMS Skavenblight is preparing to go under with all hands. Our ever-diminishing hordes (well more accurately raiding parties/roadkill) are finding themselves unable to hold off the hordes (literally) of flagellants marching, rather aimlessly I might add, in the general direction of our capital.
Man appears to have had a stiff drink and prepared to return to fray ... we applaud the effort we really do.
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December 10th, 2007, 03:14 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Arga Dis went under. Had we placed our mages forward a bit, and had decoys, we feel that Bandar Log's god would have gone down with a number of afflictions. However, with our entire army smashed+most mages dead, Tien Chi invading and one turn from our capital, 87 unrest in the capital thanks to spells by Tien Chi (presumably, since bandar log hasn't cast any so far), and pretty much no blood remaining, and our other fort seiged, the AI can handle things just as well...
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December 10th, 2007, 04:26 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
What would you say the determining factor in your demise was?
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December 10th, 2007, 07:32 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Well in my case I should really have gone blood, blood and more blood. It certainly would have helped to have got a blood economy up and running before Ulm Reborn's troops arrived - just to be able to pump out rats and more rats to soak more of the hits. My gem income has been pretty dire - maybe Man and Ulm will find the stuff I am missing [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img]
On the research front the mages of Skavenblight are pretty damn versatile. Spamming vengeance of the dead against Ulm's more accomplished mages was handy along with the ability to mind duel and fire off a range of death magicks when in combat. Communions and blood sabbaths would have been excellent to pull off more - with Lizard Shaman and Crystal Amazons I certainly had the raw material to back up my seers.
Death Frenzy is a very useful spell - but like Touch of Madness Skaven mages have a habit of firing it off a little bit much - though beserk Skaven priests are fair combatants. I know - don't give them death gems but sometimes you forget or have them scripted to do something else.
As for determining factor - my inability to fight a two front war. Had I been able to concentrate against Ulm I reckon I could have made a real mess of his first foray (as I was able to repeatedly remove his armies leaders with Vengeance of the Dead and Mind Duels). So whilst Man has done little of note they kept my reserve pinned when it needed to be thrown into the fray.
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December 10th, 2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Yes, I must admit my flagellants have been a bit aimless - or rather, mainly they are waiting around for reinforcements - I got a bit scared of Skavenblight after my last army got annihilated. There was also an episode of bungling shortly before I attacked Skavenblight. My army had been split across two provinces (A and B), with all my commanders in A. So I moved the commanders to B to pick up the rest of the troops - only to realise I had brought no troops, so half of them were still in A. So then I traipsed back to A. And then I attacked and everyone died. Not so good.
Digress has actually been quite cunning in proclaiming his demise very early, which lead me to greatly underestimate him. Possibly the war might have gone much more swimmingly were it not for my feeling complacent after the initial invasion. As it is victories have probably been reasonably equal on both sides, with my advantage being that all the fighting is happening in Skaven territory, so their infrastructure and resources are falling apart while mine is thankfully unscathed.
Incidentally my initial army was eventually annihilated - but only having been split in two and then one half split in two again, comically without loss of troops as you were saying. And those surviving troops did remain a thorn in your side for a good amount of time. That must have been really annoying for you.
Congratulations go to Bandar for a truly spectacular comeback from two provinces back to being a powerful force. Also condolences to Arga Dis - well played sum1.
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