Anomaly reports

[Richard_H]

Helicopters - eek! Given the number of different marks of a helo like the UH-1, there is plenty of potential here for slipping on a banana skin. I have therefore tried not to highlight small variations in speed (some smart ground crew person will always try & squeeze the odd knot or 2), carry capacity etc. I have indicated units where there are differences in capabilities that have a 1-6 range (survivability, stabilisers etc), or where the majority of similar units says one thing and the 'odd man/men out' say different.

Class 53 – Helicopter. By country of manufacturer, then alphabetically by manufacturer, and then by year of manufacture.

Aerospatiale SA.330 Puma – Gulf 562, Turkey 501 & Peru 530 have Survivability 4, Ethiopia 122 has 0, others have 3.
France 517, UK 574, Pakistan 420, Romania 124 and Brazil 122 have Stabiliser 0, even though they are armed.

AS.332 Super Puma – Gulf 566, Greece 519, Argentina 533 & Thailand 498 have Survivability 4, which leaves a narrow majority with 3.
Gulf 566 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Indonesia 120 has ‘Steel HF’ 10, standard is 12.

AS.532 Cougar – Greece 520 has Speed 86, standard is 93 or 108. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 10, all others have 12.
Jordan 109, Green 124, Brazil 123 and Saudi 532 have Survivability 3, others have 4.
France 516, Netherlands 514, Turkey 502 and Brazil 123 have Stabiliser 0, Jordan 109 has 2, standard is 4.
France 516 & 519, Netherlands 514 and Turkey 502 have ‘Steel HF’ 10. Standard even for the AS.332 is 12, and the Cougar is a developed version.
Albania 132 is called “AS-350B2”, which relates to the Ecureuil light helo; however, the stats and .lbm are those of the Cougar. According to SIPRA, 5 AS.532 Cougars were delivered in 2009. Dates for the unit are 1/79 – 12/105; these dates are covered by other units in the oob.
Conversely, Cambodia 123 also has the stats and .lbm of an AS.532, although it is also called “AS-350”. Again according to SIPRA, Cambodia has had no Pumas of any mark, but 2 AS.350 Ecureuils were probably delivered in 1993. In the game, all AS.350 are classed as Light Helos; this would not affect Cambodian formations.

EH-101 Merlin – Portugal 281 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 3.

Agusta A.109 – Sweden 586 has Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 94 (standard is 104) and Steel HF 4 (standard is 9).

Mil Mi-1 – Mujahadeen 116 is Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 76 (standard is 67) and Survivability 3 (standard is 1).

Mil Mi-4 (and derivatives) – Russia 312 has Survivability 0, standard is 4.
NVA 226 has FC 4, Rangefinder 4 and Stabiliser 2, although it is unarmed.
Cuba 130 has Stabiliser 2, although unarmed.
Finland 146 has Stabiliser 0, Uganda 136 has 3, standard for armed versions is 2.
China 115 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, Green 125 has 5, standard is 6.

Mil Mi-8 – Russia 315-318 & 355 have Survivability 0, standard is 4.
Finland 145 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.

Mil Mi-17 – PLO 232 has Stabiliser 2, Czech 117 has 0, standard is 4.

Mil Mi-2 - Figures are correct.

Mil Mi-14 – Poland 968 has Swim Speed 1, one of only 2 helicopters to have this ability. I’m dubious, if only because helicopters don’t taxi in the same way as fixed-wing aircraft and although the Mi-14 is built to land on water, I have never seen either a photo or a report to suggest that it can move on it in a controlled manner. It also has ‘Steel HS’ 0, standard is 1.

Westland Wessex – Iraq 112, Nigeria 131, S.Yemen 115 & Uruguay 277 have Survivability 4, others have 3.

Westland Lynx – UK 573 & 576 have Stabiliser 0, even though armed. Standard for the armed version is 5.

Bell 204/205 Series – Norway 254 & 255 have Survivability 2, Israel 262, Iran 270, Netherlands 506 & W.Germany 332 have 3, standard is 4.
Of the armed versions, Jordan 107, China 119, Netherlands 506, Turkey 494 & 495, Spain 503 & W.Germany 332 have Stabiliser 2; Greece 507 & 515, Austria 117, Uruguay 285 & Paraguay 288 have 4, standard is 3.
Iran 270 and Canada 412 & 413 have Stabiliser 0, although all are armed.
Cambodia 117, Chile 122 & Peru 117 have Stabiliser 3, Israel 262 has 2, although all are unarmed.
Jordan 107, Iran 270, S.Korea 105 & 107, Taiwan 107, Norway 254 & 255, Spain 503, Ethiopia 110 & 112 and Lebanon 137 & 138 have ‘Steel HF’ 4, standard is 6.
Just a small suggestion: Japan 351, Iran 270, S.Korea 105, Spain 503, Chile 122 and Indonesia 125 (covering various marks) all have Speed 80, which equates to 150 mph. My sources (‘Aircraft of the USAF’ in the Putnam series, various Janes editions etc) suggest that 138 mph is about top whack for a standard Huey, which equates to Speed 75, which is pretty much an average in the game.

Bell 212 – Israel 264, Iran 272 & Norway 590 have Survivability 3, others have 4.
Sweden 585 has Speed 75, standard is 83-86. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 0, standard is 6.

Bell 214 – Norway 591 & Peru 532 have Speed 99, all others have 90.
Iran 273, Thailand 503 and Ecuador 517 have Stabiliser 4, standard for the ‘family’ is 3. They also have ‘Steel HF’ 7, standard is 6.

Bell 412 – Cyprus 150, Brazil 119, Chile 120 & Indonesia 272 have Speed 62, standard is 87.
Norway 256 has Survivability 3, Netherlands 509 has 5, all others have 4.
Netherlands 509 has Stabiliser 2, all other armed versions have 3.
Green 120, Nigeria 135, Finland 148, Zimbabwe 116, Eritrea 127 and Uganda 147 & 148 have RoF 6, standard for MG-armed helos is 9.
Norway 256 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, the 4 with Speed 62 have 8 (maybe the reason for the reduced speed?), all others have 6.

Boeing-Vertol CH-47 Chinook – Taiwan 108 & 109, Netherlands 513 & Turkey 513 have Speed 88, standard is 100.
Netherlands 513 & Turkey 513 have Stabiliser 4, although unarmed.

Sikorsky S-55/H-19/Westland Whirlwind – There is a narrow majority (15:14) with Size 3. The H-19 is a similar size to the SA.330 Puma (slightly larger main rotor, slightly shorter body), all of which are Size 3.
The Size 4 units are:- Israel 260, France 502, UK 528, USA 288, Taiwan 105, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Canada 408, Greece 511, Turkey 493, Yugoslavia 120, Chile 121, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320.
Austria 119 & Ecuador 124 have Stabiliser 4 (they are unarmed), all others have 0.
Survivability is mixed, to say the least. Israel 260, Taiwan 105, ARVN 85, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Greece 511, Turkey 493, Thailand 495 & Cambodia 120 have 2; France 502, UK 528, Jordan 105, Iran 260, USA 288, USMC 158, Canada 408, Denmark 115, Brazil 116, Chile 121, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320 have 3; Japan 344, Yugoslavia 120, Green 118, Argentina 528, Austria 119, Thailand 494, Indonesia 116 & Ecuador 124 have 4.
Likewise, the Steel HF figure is very variable:- Israel 260, France 502, Taiwan 105, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Greece 511, Turkey 493 & Thailand 495 have 3; Green 118, Austria 119 & Ecuador 124 have 4; Japan 344 & Jordan 105 have 6; UK 528, Canada 408, Yugoslavia 120, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320 have 8; Iran 260 & Denmark 115 have 10, and the remainder have 5.
I’d be tempted to go for Survivability 3 & HF 5, as the H-34 standard is 3/6.

Sikorsky S-58/H-34 – Sudan 111 is Size 3, all others are 4. It also has Stabiliser 2, although unarmed.
Iran 268, Taiwan 104, Pakistan 407, Belgium 201 and W.Germany 325 & 326 have Survivability 2, Italy 491 has 4, standard is 3.
Netherlands 508 has Stabiliser 0, although it is armed.
Iran 268, Thailand 496 & 497, Chad 226 & Uruguay 275 have ‘Steel HF’ 5, Sudan 111 has 4, standard is 6.

Sikorsky S-61/Westland Sea King – UK 532, 536 & 575 have Survivability 3, all others have 4.
UK 575 has Stabiliser 0, standard for the armed version is 4.
Belgium 199 has Stabiliser 4, although unarmed.
UK 532 & Malaysia 324 have ‘Steel HF’ 12, standard is 14.

Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 – Turkey 496, 499 & 500 have Speed 80, standard is 99.
Argentina 536 has Lift Capacity 114, all others have 214.
Gulf 568 and S.Korea 111 & 112 have Stabiliser 2, Israel 265 has 3, standard is 4.
Israel 265 & Brazil 124 have Armour 10/2/2/2/2/2/0, Green 119 & Brazil 125 have 12/4/2/2/2/2/0 – I didn’t think this worked with helicopters.
Chile 128 has Armour 12/4, standard is 10/2.

Vertol H 21 – France 510 is listed as this, although it has most of the stats of a CH-34. France had both types, so it’s an interesting one. Every other H-21 in the game is Heavy Helo class and has a Steel HF figure of 12 (this unit has 5). The relevant formations in the oob are covered by other units.

Richard H

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Richard_H

Mil Mi-1 – Mujahadeen 116 is Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 76 (standard is 67) and Survivability 3 (standard is 1).

It's overstated anyway. Russian and Polish sources all say max speed was 170 km/h - some 57.

Originally Posted by Richard_H

Mil Mi-14 – Poland 968 has Swim Speed 1, one of only 2 helicopters to have this ability. I’m dubious, if only because helicopters don’t taxi in the same way as fixed-wing aircraft and although the Mi-14 is built to land on water, I have never seen either a photo or a report to suggest that it can move on it in a controlled manner.

You're probably right. Besides, this unit is of dubious use - it's specialized ASW or SAR helicopter, not seen upon land normally - and it shouldn't be armed with anything but torpedoes (it has 12.7 DShK)

Michal

[Suhiir]

Just to complicate your life you when doing your comparisons keep in mind :
Bell 204 = UH-1B
Bell 205 = UH-1H
Bell 212 = UH-1N
Bell 214 = Variant on the Bell 205 with larger engine
Bell 412 = Bell 212 with 4-blade (i.e. Canadian Bell CH-146 Griffon)
S-61 = SH-3 Sea King

[Richard_H]

@ Suhiir - yeah thanks, complications are always fun

Class 203 – Attack Helicopter

81 helicopters in this class have ATGW or AAM as primary armament, but have RoF 9. It may be a design thing, so I shan’t bother listing them. If it isn’t a design thing, let me know & I’ll do the list.

Aerospatiale AS.550 Fennec – Denmark 122 has Size 3, standard for the Ecureuil series is 2.

Aerospatiale SA.365 Panther – Saudi 548 has a ‘Steel HR’ value of 1.
SA.565 – ‘Armour’ figures differ: Israel 271 has 8/2, China 483 has 12/6, Gulf 115 has 9/2, Angola 153 has 8/0.

Aerospatiale AS.532 Cougar – Switzerland 222 has Speed 80, standard is 93 or 108. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 10, standard is 12.

Sud Aviation Alouette III – Yugoslavia 126 has Stabiliser 3, India 122 has 4, Switzerland 214 has 0, others have 5.
Angola 151 has ‘Steel HF’ 5, all others have 4.

Sud-Est Alouette II – Switzerland 982 has RoF 6, standard for TOW-armed helicopters is 4 or 9.
Switzerland 983 has RoF 5, standard for mg-armed helos is 9.

Eurocopter EC 635 – Iraq 963 has RoF 4, primary armament is MG.

Agusta A.109 – Belgium 207 has Size 3, all others have 2.

Agusta A.129 Mangusta – Italy 504 & 506 have Size 1, all others have 2.

Kamov Ka-52 – Russia 374, 397 & 633 have Survivability 0. Struck me as odd for one of the most heavily-armoured helicopters in the game. However, I also note that very few Russian helicopters either in this class or in Class 221 have a Survivability rating, although they are given to exported versions.

Mil Mi-4 – NVA 222 has Stabiliser 2, E.Germany 115 has 5, standard for this class is 4.

Mil Mi-8 – E.Germany 120 has ‘Steel HS’ 0, standard for the TB version is 1.

Mil Mi-2 – E.Germany 117 has Survivability 3, standard is 4. It also has Stabiliser 5, standard is 4.

Mil Mi-24 – Slovakia 205 has ‘Steel HS’ 3, standard is 2.

Mil Mi-35 – India 123 & 124, Green 574 and Indonesia 612 have Survivability 4, all others have 5.
Cyprus 140 & 141 and Indonesia 612 have ‘Steel HS’ 2, all others have 3.

Westland Gazelle – Gulf 120 is the other helicopter (see previous class) with a Swim Speed. Unlike the Mi-14, the Gazelle does not have a boat-shaped hull, nor have I ever seen a model with floats.
Syria 138, Libya 131, Chad 235 & Kenya 151 have ‘Steel HS’ 1, all others have 0.

Bell UH-1 Huey – Iran 285, Turkey 476 & N.Yemen 123 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Italy 499 has Stabiliser 3, El Salvador 126 has 4, standard for gunship versions is 5.
Iran 285, S.Korea 115, Spain 511 & 512 and N.Yemen 123 have ‘Steel HF’ 5, standard is 6.

Bell AH-1 Hueycobra – USMC 118 has Size 3, all other early models have 2.
Israel 273, NVA 225 & Spain 516 have Speed 74, standard is 92 or 111.
Pakistan 430 & 431 and Spain 515 & 516 have Survivability 2, S.Korea 120 has 4, standard is 3.
Taiwan 120 & 121 have Armour 8/2/1/1/1/1/0. As with the previous class, I didn’t think this could be done.

AH-1W – USMC 500 has ‘Steel HS’ 3, all others have 2.
Taiwan 120 & 121 and Turkey 479-481 have ‘Steel HF’ 8, others have 10.

Boeing-Vertol CH-47 Chinook – USA 905 has Armour 12/2/1/12/2/1/1. Comments as for AH-1.

Hughes 500/OH-6 – Japan 361 & 365 and Finland 524-526 have Size 1, all others have 2.
S.Korea 117 & Taiwan 117 have Speed 70, all others have at least 80.
Spain 583 & El Salvador 117 have FC & Rangefinder 0/0, all others have 5/3 They also have ‘Steel HS’ 0, all others have 1.
Japan 361 and Finland 524-526 have ‘Steel HF & HS’ 5/0, standard is 6/1.

McDonnell-Hughes AH-64 – Netherlands 523-526 have Survivability 2, all others have 3.

Sikorsky H-34 – France 481, 483 & 484 have Size 3, standard is 4.

Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 – Gulf 116 has Stabiliser 3, standard is 4.
Gulf 116 and Brazil 127 & 902 have Armour 10/2/2/2/2/2/0. Comments as for AH-1.
Chile 523 has a ‘Steel TS’ value of 2.

Richard H

[Richard_H]

Helicopters are a headache, I'll come back to the other classes.

In the meantime, some nice easy Guards classes!

Class 89 – Guards Infantry

Iraq 432 & 433 have 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds, Iraq 434 has 16, all for 9 Crew.
Bosnia-H 94 have 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.
Saudi 483 & 484 have 16 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 6 Crew.


Class 90 – Guards Squad

Libya 515-518 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.
Switzerland 518, 930 & 931 have 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 4 Crew.
Nigeria 440 and Uganda 440 have 16 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.


Class 91 – Light Guards

Poland 874-876 & 886 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 6 Crew.

Richard H

[Suhiir]

Personally I found helos and aircraft (especially aircraft) to be the biggest pain in the rear when doing my OOB variant.
Probably one reason I'm a tad "excitable" concerning how WinSPMBT handles aircraft ... all that work for so little in-game utility

And it's 92 times worse for Andy & Don.

[Richard_H]

Once I've finished this little exercise, downloading your mod is top of my hit list!

But for now - I'm still off helicopters, so here's a little flak.

Class 8 – Flak

Lots of anomalies here (mostly size-wise), especially if one follows the ‘Mobhack Guide’ to the letter. 80% of units up to 25mm are Size 1, so I’ve indicated those that aren’t. However, there are a lot (maybe 100+) of units in the 30-40mm bracket that are also Size 1, particularly those involving the 40mm Bofors. I’ve indicated them, if only because according to the Guide they should be Size 2, but changing them all would drive Don nuts!

12.7mm AAMG – Poland 622 & 623, NVA 289, Yugoslavia 459, Switzerland 752 & 753, Bosnia-H 459 and Croatia 459 are Size 0, all others (including other classes) are 1.
PLO 179 has Crew 3, all others have 4.
Poland 622 & 623 have Speed 3, all others have 2.
Poland 622 & 623, USA 522, Iraq 851, N.Korea 636, Yugoslavia 459, Austria 46, Cambodia 81, Croatia 459 and Lebanon 600 have Load Cost 1. Standard, at least in other classes with AAMG, is 0.
Paraguay 260 & 261 have 10 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds and 4 Crew.

12.7mm Quad M55 – S.Korea 205, Cyprus 103, Brazil 314 and Paraguay 259 have Speed 0, all others have 1.
Denmark 66 has Load Cost 1, Pakistan 376, Portugal 52 and Paraguay 259 have 3, all others have 2.
Malaysia 98 has 4 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 6 Crew.
Italy 169 & 171 have Size 2 (standard is 1) and RoF 8 (standard is 9). Italy 171 also has Speed 0, standard is 1, even with radar.

14.5mm ZPU-1 – Syria 262, PLO 180 and Afghanistan 271 have Crew 3, all others have 4.
Iraq 296 has Speed 2, all others have 1.
Albania 350 and Zimbabwe 89 have Load Cost 0, all others have 2.
Afghanistan 271 has 3 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

14.5mm ZPU-2 – Yugoslavia 461 & 462 have Size 2, all others have 1.
PLO 181, NVA 293, Afghanistan 272, E.Germany 86, Czech 86, Hungary 86, Romania 86 and Bulgaria 304 have Crew 3, all others have 4.
Pakistan 378 has Load Cost 3, Poland 86, Hungary 86, Red 86 and Viet Cong 86 have 1, all others have 2.
Afghanistan 272, E.Germany 86, Czech 86 and Hungary 86 have 3 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

14.5mm ZPU-4 – Yugoslavia 463-465, Bosnia 465 and Croatia 465 have Size 2, all others have 1.
Syria 264, Russia 417, China 442 & 444, Iraq 298, N.Korea 84 and Lebanon 602 have Crew 6, all others have 4.
Poland 87, Syria 264, Viet Cong 87 and Nicaragua 317 have Load Cost 2, all others have 3
Russia 417, China 442 & 444, Iraq 298, N.Korea 84 and Lebanon 602 have 6 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

20mm Hispano/Oerlikon – all 27 of these are Size 2, which is the standard size of a 37-40mm. From the photos, they don’t have a significantly larger footprint than, for example, the Vulcan, which is generally Size 1 even with radar fire control. The units concerned are :- Israel 166, Belgium 67, Romania 84, Argentina 312, Austria 47 & 48, Switzerland 82, 84 & 777-789, Kenya 334, Bulgaria 301 and Uruguay 151.
Israel 166, Belgium 67, Kenya 334 and Bulgaria 301 have Crew 7 and Load Cost 3, standard is 3/1.
Romania 84 has Crew 6, standard is 3.
Israel 166 has 4 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds.

20mm M55 – Paraguay 262 has Size 2, Crew 3 and Load Cost 1, all others have 1/6/2.

20mm M55 x 3 – Yugoslavia 470 & 471, Switzerland 83, Bosnia 471, Croatia 471 and Indonesia 318 have Size 2, others have 1.
Green 318 & El Salvador 318 have Crew 7, Cyprus 104 has 6, standard is 5. They all also have Load Cost 3, standard is 2.
Cyprus 104 has Speed 0, standard is 1.

Switzerland 776 is in name a 34mm unit, but its primary weapon is quad 20mm (Weapon 71). Weapon 79 is 34mm.

20mm M75 – Yugoslavia 467 & 468, Bosnia 468 & Croatia 468 have Size 2, standard size for 20mm AA is 1.
Peru 317 has Crew 6, others have 3.

20mm Rh202 – Greece 174 & Indonesia 317 have Crew 7 and Load Cost 3, all others have 3/1.

20mm Vulcan – Belgium 68 is Size 2, all others are 1.
Jordan 322 & 323 have Crew 7, Uruguay 153 & 154 have 3, all others have 4.
Egypt 203, USA 234, Gulf 292 & 293, Belgium 68, Thailand 161 and Saudi 292 have Speed 1, standard for the radar-equipped version is 0.
Egypt 203 has 3 Weapon 2 (SKS Carbine) rounds.

23mm ZU-23 – Poland 79, 88, 95 & 619, NVA 295, Romania 88 & 106, Yugoslavia 473 & 474, Algeria 161, Bosnia 474, Croatia 474, Chad 167, Finland 92 & 93, Kenya 328, Zimbabwe 92, Ukraine 418 and Mozambique 29 have Size 2, all others have 1.
Poland 79, 95 & 619, Finland 92 & 93, Viet Cong 88 and Nicaragua 318 have Crew 6, all others have 4.
Poland 79, 95 & 619, Jordan 321, Russia 418, 794, 797, 799, 814 & 816, Yugoslavia 473 & 474, Bosnia 474, Croatia 474 and Lebanon 603 have Load Cost 3, all others have 4.

25mm Mle.39 – Austria 49 has Crew 3, Romania 85 has 6. As the older AA guns tended to have larger crews than more modern types, I would incline towards the Romanian figure, but have no supporting evidence.

30mm M1992 - N.Korea 86 has Size 3, standard is 2.

30mm Oerlikon – Taiwan 207, S.Korea 207, Greece 178, Italy 172, Libya 350, Argentina 314 and Sudan 561 are Size 1, standard is 2.
Greece 178 has Crew 4, Argentina 314 has 3, Finland 95 has 5.
Italy 172 and Sudan 561 have Crew 4, standard for a twin installation is 6.
Argentina 314 has Load Cost 1, standard is 3.

35mm Type 90 – China 449 is Size 3, standard for 35mm is 2.

35mm Oerlikon – Turkey 161-163, Spain 156 & 157, Romania 90 & 91, Cyprus 105 and Ecuador 317 have Crew 7, all others have 6.
Turkey 161 & 162, Spain 156 and Romania 90 have Load Cost 4, all others have 3.
Size 1 units:- Japan 110 & 111, UK 426, Canada 207 & 208, Greece 177 & 179, Turkey 161-163, Spain 156 & 157, Romania 90 & 91, Argentina 317, Cyprus 105, Malaysia 102 & 103, Ecuador 317.

37mm M1939 – Syria 261 and Czech 80 have Crew 6, standard is 8.
Poland 80, Syria 261, Russia 391, E.Germany 89, Czech 80, Hungary 80, Cuba 345 and Algeria 162 & 163 have Load Cost 3, Pakistan 379 has 1, standard is 4.

Size 1 37mm AA:- Syria 261, Iran 257, Pakistan 379, E.Germany 89, Cuba 345, Nicaragua 315, Bulgaria 302 & 303.

40mm Bofors – Belgium 51 has Crew 8, Italy 168 & 170 have 4, Netherlands 160 has 3, Norway 194, Finland 100 & 101 have 6, standard is 7.
USMC 49 & 941 have Speed 1, all others have 0.
Yugoslavia 476-478, Bosnia 477 & Croatia 477 have Load Cost 4, Italy 170 has 5, standard is 3, even for a radar-equipped mounting.
Italy 168, 170 & 173 have RoF 8, all others have 9.
Israel 167 & 168 have 4 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.
Size 1 units:- Egypt 202, Israel 167 & 168, UK 424 & 425, Jordan 319 & 320, Iran 255, Australia 214 & 215, Gulf 290, Iraq 295, India 510-512, S.Korea 206, Taiwan 206, Mujahadeen 270, Pakistan 370 & 371, Afghanistan 270, Canada 205 & 206, Greece 176, Turkey 159 & 160, Spain 154 & 155, Denmark 64 & 65, Libya 345, Green 314 & 315, Argentina 315 & 316, Cyprus 102, Brazil 315 & 317, Cuba 340, S.Africa 124, Angola 330, Chile 315, Nigeria 330, Saudi 290, Sudan 555, Kenya 330-332, Indonesia 315 & 316, Malaysia 100 & 101, S.Yemen 290, N.Yemen 290, Ecuador 315, El Salvador 315, Nicaragua 319, Peru 315, Somalia 336, Tanzania 330, Uganda 330, Uruguay 150, Paraguay 265.

57mm M1950 – Russia 419 & 420, Pakistan 380 & 381, Cuba 346-348, Algeria 164 and Albania 353 & 354 have Crew 8, all others have 7.
Russia 419 & 420 and Yugoslavia 479-481 have Load Cost 4, all others have 3.
Size 2 units (Standard in the Guide is Size 3):- Egypt 207 & 208, Syria 266 & 267, PLO 184, Iran 258 & 259, Russia 420, Iraq 300, Mujahadeen 275, Pakistan 380 & 381, Afghanistan 275, Turkey 157, E.Germany 370 & 371, Libya 349, Cuba 346-348, Algeria 164, Albania 353 & 354, Angola 335 & 336, Ethiopia 349, Viet Cong 89, N.Yemen 294, Eritrea 335, Ukraine 419 & 420, Bulgaria 308, Somalia 335.

75mm – Switzerland 758 has Size 1, standard is 3.

Richard H

[Marcello]

30mm M1992 - N.Korea 86 has Size 3, standard is 2

It is believed to be used from prepared emplacements, as it requires an external power supply. Likely associated to radar targeting and similar gear. So perhaps it might be justifiable.

[DRG]

The 'Mobhack Guide’ numbers are GUIDELINES put together so early OOB workers would have someplace to refer to when they had a question but after that it was up to them to determine the most appropriate size from known photographs. That NK gun is size three because that seemed the more appropriate size and given they were allowed some latitude it's no surprise they took it

[Richard_H]

That's very interesting, given that there do not appear to be any known photographs of the M1990 static version (http://blog.daum.net/rodin/15963532)

.lbm 45500 is used for both this and the Greek Artemis system; I have attached the original of the lbm - it is an Artemis.

I will repeat this - these are anomalies, and without seeing a photo of the real thing, nobody can really make a judgment 'against the head', as they say in rugby.

Richard H