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February 4th, 2010, 09:23 PM
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Re: Diplomacy ethics
Yes Sir, that I agree with completely!!!
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February 5th, 2010, 09:05 AM
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Re: Diplomacy ethics
I for one base my diplomacy on roleplay. If I am playing a sneaky backstabbing bastard, then I'll stick to that. If I'm playing a honourable divine prescence, I'll stick to that.
I would also value a diplomatic relation much higher if good roleplay has been exchanged in the process. While I wouldn't care nearly as much if the only communication had been for example: "NAP3?" answered by "Ok"
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February 5th, 2010, 09:25 AM
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Re: Diplomacy ethics
By "being a good sport" I meant something different than understood. It was not a synonym for being a gratuitous loser, but rather meant ingame sportsmanlike behavior such as not making cheap shots, not using exploits, not throwing game, etc. I can perfectly understand someone getting upset about unsportsmanlike behavior and letting off the vent in the forums, thus creating drama. Ideally you would have neither drama, nor cause for it. Don't get me wrong here, obviously the part with calling names and insulting is too much. But, I can understand someone getting pissed for being backstabbed in certain situations (Setsumi one included). It's easy to be a gratuitous loser when you lost a fair fight and that is not what I had in mind. How about losing a five to one dogpile or because another player gave away his VPs? It would be reasonable to expect certain things from players, but as the practice proves, you really cannot.
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February 5th, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Re: Diplomacy ethics
Thanks for clarifying! I think I understand what you are saying now. Just personally:
- I like in-character drama, but I don't like venting out-of-character,
- I don't mind 'exploits' so much, as long as they make some kind of sense in-game,
- 'Throwing' games is even acceptable to me if there is an in-character reason for it.
But you are right, it would be unreasonable for me to expect everyone to have the same opinions as me. My new modified OP request will be "I expect everyone to be a good sport. If you do need to vent, please try to keep it in character".
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