Forge of Ulm

DarkAvenger211 · #1 February 2nd, 2012, 07:04 PM

I have looked everywhere for the explanation for this global enchantment spell. And I can't find it at all

The description is very vague, so what does this spell do?

Mightypeon · #2 February 2nd, 2012, 08:36 PM

It is like Forge of the Ancients, it both reduces forge prices and makes your mage levels count as one more for forging requirement purposes.
This means that an A1 Mage Smith will be able to forge A2 items.
Be wary about using it in MP games, it can make people attack you.

Soyweiser · #3 February 6th, 2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mightypeon

It is like Forge of the Ancients, it both reduces forge prices and makes your mage levels count as one more for forging requirement purposes.
This means that an A1 Mage Smith will be able to forge A2 items.
Be wary about using it in MP games, it will make everybody attack you at once.

Fixed that for you.

Mightypeon · #4 February 6th, 2012, 08:11 PM

Not always Soyweiser, although I am currently doing a terrible mistake by casting it in a goon game

Knai · #5 February 7th, 2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mightypeon

Not always Soyweiser, although I am currently doing a terrible mistake by casting it in a goon game

Is "not always" being used as a code for "provided that somebody else throws up Arcane Nexus or Astral Corruption and steals the high priority spot"?

Squirrelloid · #6 February 7th, 2012, 05:23 PM

Forge vs. AN... no, you should still kill the Forge caster first. Seriously.

Edit: I think its being used as code for 'My opponents don't have a clue'

Knai · #7 February 7th, 2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelloid

Forge vs. AN... no, you should still kill the Forge caster first. Seriously.

Edit: I think its being used as code for 'My opponents don't have a clue'

I'd call that situational, though there are certainly cases where I'd go for the Forge caster prior to the AN caster. Astral Corruption on the other hand takes priority, if only because AC basically blocks the Forge.

Soyweiser · #8 February 7th, 2012, 07:52 PM

Well if you mainly have astral mages, or have other ways of preventing/ignoring the horror attacks AC isn't always a problem.

Executor · #9 February 8th, 2012, 05:22 AM

Depends of the game size doesn't it? Definitely AN in larger games.
Though, if you cast forge, it would be enough to hold it for 2-3 turns and mass forge 150 items and than dispel it yourself or kill the caster. That won't make people attack you.
And heck, if only 2-3 neighbors can attack you, you can easily deal with them.

Mightypeon · #10 February 8th, 2012, 01:03 PM

The thing is, forge of Ulm can be cast early, before a lot of cross map mobility happens, and if you only border 4 guys, one of those being in a war already, you can bribe at least one of the other 3, and team up with him to eat the attacking neighbours. Also, if its cast early, it objectivly is not as much as a gamewinning threat as casting it later. And you can get away with some funny lightless lantern rushing if graphs are off.
That early, its not awfully likely that someone has an astral stash with your name written on it either. Nor is it particularly easy to get rid of a rainbow in his own dominion very early in the game.