Do you use CBM?

[Deathblob]

This is a poll to find out how many in the community use CBM.

PS If you make a poll, don't have any typos. Because you can't edit it.

"Enen" -----> "Even"

PPS Gahhrgh! How do I change my poll? There needs to be a poll editor! I forgot the most important poll option:

8) No, because everyone got buffs except for Fomoria!

If you want to vote for option 8 (or anything else) then please post below.

[Foodstamp]

This Fomoria neglect is an absolute outrage!

[Gandalf Parker]

I can already tell you that many on this forum use CBM.
However on other Dom3 forums its much less used. They know of it, there just isnt the pressure to use it.

As far as the poll, my answer isnt quite on there. No I dont use CBM. On the other hand, I dont play it vanilla the way the devs made it either. I use many mods that extensively change the game, just not the way CBM tries to.

[cux47]

9) Yes, i used CBM, even though they didn't buffied Fomoria!

[brxbrx]

I find that some of CBM's changes are unthematic and geared towards powergaming.
And the game is sufficiently challenging for me as it is.

[Jiggymike]

I like the idea of not having to base so much strategy around gem production and hammers, so I use CBM. I also appreciate llama's desire to increase the usefulness of certain items and units, though I'm not sure he always succeeds. However I'm fairly inexperienced at the game and never experienced MP WITHOUT CBM, so I don't think I have a great feel for how the game is in vanilla.

[Amorphous]

Those choices are rather obnoxiously formulated, are they not?

Nevertheless I voted for the first alternative, but a comment is in order.
I prefer vanilla over CBM, especially for MP, but I do try to keep abreast of what happens in CBM and play it occasionally. There are parts of CBM that are nice, but as a whole it is not.

[elmokki]

I'm not 100% fine with all the CBM changes, but all in all it's a lot better than vanilla for multiplayer. I personally would have to say that anyone not using CBM or some similiar mod in multiplayer will either be a lot more limited with nation choices or just not have as balanced game, both of which are bad.

For singleplayer nothing matters anyway. It's too easy regardless of if you use CBM or not and AI is far too stupid for the game to be balanced in any way regardless of any game mechanical nation balance.

[Herode]

Originally Posted by brxbrx

I find that some of CBM's changes are unthematic and geared towards powergaming.
And the game is sufficiently challenging for me as it is.

+1!

[llamabeast]

People who don't like CBM changes - it's hard for me to consider these issues without knowing what they are. What bits aren't you so keen on?

I find that some of CBM's changes are unthematic and geared towards powergaming.

Hmm, well theme is of course an entirely subjective thing so I guess it's inevitable that there will be some disagreement on these issues. But I do hope that people realise that one of qm's strongest principles (which I have tried to maintain) is that theme should always come first. In any question of balance vs theme, theme should always win out. What changes do you consider unthematic?

I don't understand the powergaming comment. I guess I don't even know what that means. CBM tries to make OP strategies not OP, while also making very weak strategies feasible.

It's hard to comment in this thread without appearing defensive, but that's not how I'm intending to write, I'm just interested in people's opinions.

I should also say again that in a sense I'm speak for qm here, since CBM is almost entirely his work. I've inherited the mod so I'm interested in people's opinions, but qm should take all the credit.