Request for more cooperation in order to improve the game - Page 2

spillblood · #1 August 3rd, 2011, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

For anything to happen:
A) there has to be a problem
B) there has to be an agreement by the people who can do something about it that there is a problem
C) a fix has to be requested in a manner which does not piss off the people who can do something about the problem

There are two ways I know of to change a problem from "your opinion" to "fact". Either someone zips up a game save that the developer can easily open and see it. Or a little less effective, large percentage of the users complain about it. Posting a rant over and over can only get you banned. Especially if you "try to save others from making the same mistake". THIS forum is a SUPPORT forum and people who cant be supportive of the efforts need to find another forum more appropriate IMHO.

OK, referring to that:
Point A: There IS a problem
Point B: There IS an agreement between the community here that there is a problem, but no agreement by Malfador and Shrapnel yet.
Point C: We have already requested a fix over and over, in E-Mails, in support tickets, here in the forum.

To answer the remaining post: We could send in a fix, but we'd need forum members with programming skills since the section of the game in question (the AI) is hardcoded as far as I've determined, plus we'd need an agreement with Aaron Hall/ Malfador on that. For that, I need his reply on my last E-Mails.

But, we can also change the game /mod it in its still defective state, and even in the demo, that's why I try to lure people here.

spillblood · #2 August 3rd, 2011, 11:08 AM

Just to quote another outside voice I got in another forum today:

Quote:

Sent: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:07 pm
by darkstar076
G'Day Mate

Just went and followed the link and read the forum about WS. All i can say is wow, you really have an uphill battle

The develpoers have since moved on to other games and as you say the only thing that will cause the game to tick over is enough tickets throught the official bug report system. Even then there is no garentee that they will fix all the problems you have outlined. They might just fix the ones to keep the game working.

Hehe, I can only say: Join me in this battle, dudes!

spillblood · #3 August 3rd, 2011, 11:39 AM

Ah, to add that point, yes, I've sent in savegames, logs and bug reports to Malfador, to Shrapnel (via the support system) and I've posted the stuff here.
They definitely know about all the problems.
And if not, I can do this again, all the points Aaron requested, over and over.
But it would help if more people would do the same, so,
WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO JOIN IN HERE!

spillblood · #4 August 3rd, 2011, 11:42 AM

See, Aaron has explicitely stated he needs more people to send in bug reports if we want fixes to the AI, he stated he can't do with a single beta tester.
Do you get that?
I will not repeat this anymore.

Gandalf Parker · #5 August 14th, 2011, 03:08 PM

Skirmisher give him a chance and quit shooting him down. (and by him I mean SpillBlood)

Skirmisher · #6 August 14th, 2011, 03:29 PM

Don't you read so well?

They (not me) are becoming annoyed by his support tickets.

Gandalf Parker · #7 August 14th, 2011, 04:42 PM

But he is asking nicely, and you are insulting them.
I dont think the overall score is conducive to getting what he wants.

spillblood · #8 August 15th, 2011, 06:11 AM

They didn't put it in any insulting way, they just stated I've got 4 support requests open, that they don't have great capacities (they are a little company) and that I should stop openening new tickets. Since I'm the only one still posting tickets, I think they simply ignore them and they start to annoy them. I've still got 4 open, 3 unanswered, and I've posted more savegames, bug reports etc. But since that doesn't achieve any result, because Malfador don't move, I think I'll not file in more.
But it would be greatly appreciated if you'd file some in, Skirmisher. See: They don't believe there's a problem (I mean Shrapnel), because I'm the only one filing in support tickets.
That's the problem here, and I've explained it before.
Just stop complaining and file in tickets, that's the only way we can make Shrapnel move, I think.
And if Shrapnel move, they'll contact Aaron to do something, I think.
E-Mails to Malfador don't achieve anything, because he mostly doesn't reply, but he's stated that he appreciates my efforts here, would be cool if people would just file in support tickets, best would be ones with savegames, logs etc, and some descriptions of the problems.
That's the only way, just believe me!

spillblood · #9 August 15th, 2011, 10:41 AM

You gotta realize, they either won't react to unconstructive complaining, or they will shut this thread down like all the ones before, so please just try to cooperate, IE send in support tickets or try modding the game (although it's unfinished).

spillblood · #10 August 29th, 2011, 11:51 AM

Another two weeks of complete silence, silence by Malfador and by Shrapnel. Seriously guys, I think they don't have much interest in improving this game, but players don't show much interest either, it seems. I think Aaron won't do anything unless we signal to him that we want improvements. And by that I don't mean only myself. We need more people to participate here!