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April 5th, 2010, 02:17 AM
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Re: Taking down SCs
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you could combine Horror mark and Summon Lamshata to the above tactic to really slow down a big trample army.
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Do the Lammashtas preferentially attack horror marked units? It doesn't explicitly say that in the description.
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April 5th, 2010, 11:31 PM
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Re: Taking down SCs
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Originally Posted by Rytek
you could combine Horror mark and Summon Lamshata to the above tactic to really slow down a big trample army.
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Do the Lammashtas preferentially attack horror marked units? It doesn't explicitly say that in the description.
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Yes, they will go for the horror marked units first. Being Ethereal makes them good against the tramplers. And they cause fear.
If the SC is alone and has a horror mark already, 2 or 3 mages with a death gem each may just summon enough to cause a 1st round retreat before his buff cycle.
Don't forget to spirit Curse!
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April 5th, 2010, 12:19 AM
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Re: Taking down SCs
Principe don't really have good def. For trample checks remember it uses the actual def, not the def+parry that is listed on the unit right click screen.
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April 5th, 2010, 01:18 AM
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Re: Taking down SCs
What else uses the actual defense sombre, do you recall off the top of your head?
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April 5th, 2010, 10:57 AM
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Re: Taking down SCs
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What else uses the actual defense sombre, do you recall off the top of your head?
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Anything that checks defense. Parry is only displayed added on to def in that screen because it's helpful to see what you're likely to survive in melee (because anything that doesn't beat that value will hit shield or miss entirely).
So earthquake, falling frost, any of those kind of spells. They work great vs shielded guys because they actually have less defense due to the enc from the shield.
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April 5th, 2010, 03:25 AM
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Re: Taking down SCs
I wonder would the Retiarius with the net/trident combo be able to ensnare the chariots?
If so there very easy to amass...although you lose them after one battle, still...worth trying to see if they are effective or not.
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April 5th, 2010, 11:09 AM
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Re: Taking down SCs
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I wonder would the Retiarius with the net/trident combo be able to ensnare the chariots?
If so there very easy to amass...although you lose them after one battle, still...worth trying to see if they are effective or not.
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They will, but the nets are one shots.. so you need to stagger their purchase and deployment.
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April 5th, 2010, 01:18 PM
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Re: Taking down SCs
The nets work ok. Frantically trying to get to con 4 so I can start producing some penetration items and kit out a couple of SCs. What stinks is there is no cost effective counter for their chariots. At least their SCs cost an arm and a leg, plus a lost soul, plus...
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April 5th, 2010, 06:11 PM
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Re: Taking down SCs
Sure there are.
Earthmeld + longbows.
Quagmire + long bows.
skelly spam + long bows.
And if those don't work.. elephants.
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April 5th, 2010, 06:35 PM
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Re: Taking down SCs
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Sure there are.
Earthmeld + longbows.
Quagmire + long bows.
skelly spam + long bows.
And if those don't work.. elephants.
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No elephants available, I do not have access to Quagmire, don't think I have access to Earthmeld either. I could go the skellyspam route, but I don't have longbows either (aside from those I can craft).
I could also try some terror and frighten, but not sure how those are going to work due to their higher morale than elephants and mammoths.
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