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October 7th, 2008, 02:57 AM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
hmm these are very interesting maps even though the star one is a bit confusing the first time i played it. Couldnt quite figure out what was goin on but nice maps none the less.
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October 19th, 2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
Long time lurker, first time poster...
I like your fresh perspective on map making for Dominions. I think you were a bit over the top upon first impression (thus some of the backlash) in both attitude and map style but that is the past this is now...
We are seeing two distinct styles from you now, one quite abstract, the other more traditional (really like the "otherland" map by the way) and while I appreciate what you are trying to do with the abstract maps, abstraction without accessibility (in this case playability) is severely limiting when offered for public consumption.
I believe that if you combined abstraction with traditional we would see some of the best maps ever created (or found) for Dominions.
The landscape portions of "spheres" is quite close I think.
Thank you for your maps!
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October 20th, 2008, 12:28 AM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
I will try to be as polite as I can.
You got negative reactions to your personality, MUCH more than your maps.
I am not going to list all of the negative personality traits that you have displayed in this short area you have already claimed for yourself in this forum - if you can't read your own words and say "wow if that was someone else I'd think he was a jerk", then that only makes you a hypocrite, or insane.
Plus, your maps are really not very good. That is, in the sense of that it is a map, that is somehow representative of some foreign land, where my loyal minions may be fighting for domination. I want to take over a world, not a rhinoceros or a wig.
Oh and to reiterate - you're not an artist, you're just someone with a bad idea, and an inability to handle criticism, even when it's dressed up with friendly teasing. But I'm not teasing, because you have displayed a striking lack of sense of humor, so I am just being completely honest with you. Next time you accuse nice, friendly, and playful people as being threatening or hostile, just imagine that you may have insulted their hard work (maps they spent weeks polishing) to give them something you hardly worked on. And to clarify - Ballbarian didn't tell you to "manipulate people", all he basically said was that people would be nicer if you weren't such a prick. This is me telling you, you're still acting like a prick - and over some misguided premise that your maps are somehow superior to real maps.
I will continue to look forward to your understanding of mapmaking to improve, as well as your personality.
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October 20th, 2008, 06:00 AM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison
I will try to be as polite as I can.
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You didn't try hard enough.
It's been over two weeks, the thread was just bumped, Valis just got some positive comments on his maps, and you decided to be a prick and ensure he doesn't come back and change his attitude.
I liked the idea behind his maps. I didn't like the maps themselves (I didn't even download them), because they lacked polishing and the source images didn't look like they'd work well as maps, but the idea could have been great. I could accept conquering the world that's in fact in the backs of gigantic turtles, if the map had good terrain selection, outlines for the provinces and interesting province connections. The algae of that picture could work as forests, the rocks in the bottom would be mountains or caves, and if the map wrapped on east-west direction it could be made to work. It'd be a 45-or-so land-province map with several seas, good for games without sea nations even though it favours amphibious and sailing nations.
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You got negative reactions to your personality, MUCH more than your maps.
You're not an artist, you're just someone with an inability to handle criticism. Ballbarian didn't tell you to "manipulate people", all he basically said was that people would be nicer if you weren't such a prick.
I will continue to look forward to your understanding of mapmaking to improve, as well as your personality.
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The quote above is just a fragment of what you wrote. This fragment would've been quite enough, TWO WEEKS AGO, when the discussion was actually relevant!
If you can't read your own words and say "if that was someone else I'd think he was a jerk", then that makes you a hypocrite. (Even if you didn't start it.)
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October 21st, 2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
It's OK jim, as you might have seen others had the same feeling.. but we also hoped that he'd learned something of the various replies he'd gotten so your sort of late reply was well... to late
doesn't mean you are wrong though 
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October 21st, 2008, 10:29 PM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
I personally don't care for the maps, but I'm not going to bag on Aezeal. I've played MP with him, and he's a good enough guy.
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October 22nd, 2008, 06:14 AM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
Good Grief!!!
The vast majority of us are hoping, no make that praying, that this thread falls off the the first page to the netherworld of "other pages". For the third day in a row it's been the top post in the forum.
HINT, HINT.
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October 22nd, 2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
who was bagging on me btw? Lingchicks message leaves me a bit confused since I didn't know this thread was about me.
Making the thread be about me would seriously improve it's quality though. 
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October 22nd, 2008, 07:20 PM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
God I hate Aezeal.
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October 23rd, 2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
Did someone just say "Aezeal I hate Aezeal"
seems the thread is about me anyway, last post probably falls under "bagging Aezeal"... so Lingchih seems to be able to see in the future. /me is impressed.
Of course Sombre is allowed his feelings... no matter how strange they are.
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