Questions about Hinnom

[JaghataiKhan]

Before anyone bombards me with links to other threads, I must say that although Hinnom is wildly powerful, there are a few bug-like flaws:

*PD doesn't have Horites, who should be easily herded for PD. Starting with Avvite Light Inf. this is unbalanced.

*The Rephaim,Ba'al, melqart do not eat supplies from the land. The situation is thus:

Friend is asleep, so I grab his PC:

I was playing Silent seas against Abysia, and I tried to pass the wasteland with Acha's bearing wineskins and broth cauldrons, with 2 Ba'als, a Prophet Melqart and lots of Rephaim in army. Supply usage was -90 or something, so I easily passed the desert in the middle and laid siege to the Abysian fort at the southeast end while my Avvite army was mopping up the rest of the Island.

Then I built a fort in the neighboring forest of Nanga Parbat, I tried to hunt for blood and push research to see the Grigori. I realized I was getting none, then I looked and saw that the HINNOM ATE EVERYTHING, even the people, despite me having 4 achas with endless wine and broth.

Then I saw desert provinces I passed with barely 500 pop.

Is this a bug? Cannibal bastards. Even with a pastoral province of 3 Growth and 1200 supply,the Ba'al eat people! WTF?

[theenemy]

I'm not sure about Ba'als, but I do know that melquarts eat your population at a steady rate. Sux, I know but for thematic reasons.

[llamabeast]

I think they eat people because they like eating people, not because they're hungry.

[JaghataiKhan]

So far, Ba'als annd Melqarts eat people. I didn't find out if Kohens eat folks too.

Inbefore some Jew says: "BLOOD LIBEL!"

Kohens eat people too. Oh boy, that's going to be fun when Jewish gamers see that faction except a friend of mine.

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally Posted by JaghataiKhan

Before anyone bombards me with links to other threads, I must say that although Hinnom is wildly powerful, there are a few bug-like flaws:

At the risk of sounding unbearably snide, if you had done a search on Hinnom and read the other threads dealing with it (or checked the strategy thread), you'd have known that all the Rephaim giants (troops as well as commanders) eat the population where they are be it friend or foe - it is even in the flavour text description when you select the nation, but admittedly easy to overlook since the flavour text typically is short on details.

Hinnom truly does eat everything.

Dominions is a complex game - you'll do yourself a favour by using the search function to find answers to the sort of weird issues that probably have already been covered.

[sum1lost]

Speaking as a jewish gamer, I didn't find it offensive, nor did I react by screaming blood libel. Nor did the other jewish gamer that I know of here. Actually, come to think of it, most jews are actually fairly reasonable people who don't scream at every possible provocation.

Funny, that.

[JaghataiKhan]

Originally Posted by sum1lost

Speaking as a jewish gamer, I didn't find it offensive, nor did I react by screaming blood libel. Nor did the other jewish gamer that I know of here. Actually, come to think of it, most jews are actually fairly reasonable people who don't scream at every possible provocation.

Funny, that.

Jewish people are mostly sensitive about antisemitism since the tragedy 60 years ago, so I thought someone would get pissed at this. Though the city Gomorrah does point out that these are deviants according to Jewish myth.

[Tifone]

If you look in the other thread, I already warned you about cannibalism bro XD

Oh and by the way we already had a fanatic (sorry if I call him this way, I understand sensitivity but he was just excessive) saying it was offensive. The thread started becoming uncomfortable and it was removed, and gave the birth to a discussion here. But the other players of his religion took it intelligently and reasonably and accepted the thing as a part of mythology, and everything was fine ^^ I have several Jewish friends btw, and even they said it was ok for them as well.

Peace to all

[JaghataiKhan]

I'm glad for all these. Actually it is expected as such low-graphic high detail games have usually high iq, refined gamers.

[SlipperyJim]

Yes, Hinnom Eats Everything. If you haven't already done so, I recommend reading Baalz's excellent guide for Hinnom.

Honestly, I don't think the Rephaite warriors are worthwhile, and I don't like playing Hinnom as a bless nation. I think that Baalz has exactly the right approach: Max Scales. Push a bunch of Order, Growth, Luck, and whatever else you like. Crush your opponent(s) with good economy, strong national troops, and killer magic in the endgame.

Use Dawn Guards & Chariots as the bulk of your armies, with those lovely Avvite archers for fire support. Dawn Guards are really amazingly good. They're heavy infantry with good stats, magic weapons, and strategic move of 2. You can recruit them anywhere, and they can go toe-to-toe with anything other than dual-blessed Niefels. Rawr.

PS: Get some Luck, because the Hinnom heroes are outstanding.