Random items not random?

[K]

So, I was playing around with a test game and advancing it dozens of turns to get more gems for Wishes.

At one point, I checked my lab for an artifact that got knocked off my Lich and I see......

Six Crowns of Command, four Swords of Sharpness, five Rings of Frost, and four other assorted items.

So that can't be random. The question is: what is the real formula for getting random items?

[Jazzepi]

K said:
So, I was playing around with a test game and advancing it dozens of turns to get more gems for Wishes.

At one point, I checked my lab for an artifact that got knocked off my Lich and I see......

Six Crowns of Command, four Swords of Sharpness, five Rings of Frost, and four other assorted items.

So that can't be random. The question is: what is the real formula for getting random items?

I really wish the random items were improved some. Would make taking luck more interesting. I always end up with a plethora of unusable level 1 items like swords of sharpness, or those thicket branch things.

Jazzepi

[ano]

In one MP game I got 3 crystal shields with luck 2. It was really good)

[Edi]

I do tend to get random stuff, both usable and unusable. Various weapons, with perhaps Staff of Corrosion being the best one yet, frost rings, berserker pelts, shield of gleaming gold, lightless lantern, ring of wizardry, chi shoes, lifelong protection and others.

So for me it has been random. But that's over several games. Perhaps the variation within each game is less.

[Endoperez]

Many of the new events seem to be limited to low-level items or at least don't disallow them from the selection. Tomb of an ancient king is still likely to produce a Ring of Fire, etc etc.

There are only few events that produce a truly random item, and those usually give something common or useless.

[Ironhawk]

Edi said:
I do tend to get random stuff, both usable and unusable. ... ring of wizardry, ....

You got a Ring of Wizardry as a random item????

[Endoperez]

I've got Robe of the Archmagi, once. It was annoying, because I got TWO great treasures on the turn I lost against AI as Mictlan, and the reason I lost because I couldn't summon an Arch Devil because I lacked a booster. I think that must be some kind of a hard-coded learning experience.

[sector24]

In my SP Bogarus game I got Baba Yaga on the 1st turn, and on the 2nd turn I got a Dwarven Hammer from and event, and another Dwarven Hammer from the indy province I conquered. I take luck 3 in most of my SP games, just because it's fun and the lost points serve to help the AI a little.

[Meglobob]

Ironhawk said:

You got a Ring of Wizardry as a random item????

Yea, I have had a ring of wizardry once as a random magic item from a luck event, sadly it was in a SP game and not MP. Its very rare only happened once in countless games and I do tend to take luck 3 whenever I can.

Overall, I would say the items are random, had allsorts from the magic item tables, everything except artifacts, you don't get them randomly.

The best I have had in MP are a dwarvern hammer early on (like turn 2 or so), skull mentors, a brazen vessel (when I was playing a blood nation) to name a few.

[Jazzepi]

I've played luck 3 in two games that went to 70+ turns and I can't think of a single good item that I got in either game.

Lots of gems and money, but no items.

Jazzepi