OT: Star Trek - Page 3

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro · #21 March 31st, 2004, 07:09 PM

Oh darn, I didn't see Insurrection. Data dies? Don't worry that's not a spoiler for me. I think I'll go rent it this Friday.

Continuing with my attempt to add Capt. Pike to new situations...and be weird.

A Battlebots episode with Capt. Christopher Pike going against a Dalek!

hicksz · #22 March 31st, 2004, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:

Nemesis, the Last one, was not a bad movie. I like a lot of what the director did however the dark colors really made enjoying the movie a bit depressing. The death of Data was a well known fact before the movie even began production. John Logan had written a good script with Brent Spiner, but when Rick Berman got a hold of it, well you saw the end result.

Additionally if they would have kept the movie at its original 2 hours and 45 minute length, a lot of things would have made sense. The fact that the duplicate Data was actually constructed by the Romulans based upon the stolen plans for Data would have been an important fact to leave in the movie, but again Rick Berman cut it out.

Oh well.

All we can do now is hope that the rumor that Data survived the bLast rumor is true. That although damaged heavily he survives and is restored by using Lores parts.

Hell they brought Spoke back from the dead.

I also liked Nemesis, but there were somethings that really bugged me being a Star Trek fan. Wesley Crusher was at the wedding but I though he was with the traveler. I had to read on a message board that in the Nemesis novel, they explain that Wesley came back, finished his cadet training and is now serving with Captain Riker on the USS Titan. I wish they said that in the movie. Plus you discover only by watching the deleted scenes that Beverly Crusher is now working at Star Fleet Medical. I notice the offical Startrek website hasn't been updated with this information although it shows Deanna Troi as Riker's wife and serving aboard the USS Titan. Also the novel talks about Geordi going to Data's quarters after he dies and giving Worf the cat Spot to look after.

This is the stuff I really missed in Nemesis. I get tired of movies trying to reach a certain running time of around 2 hours to try to tell the story. Hasn't The Lord of the Ring taught the movie industry anything? I feel the Star Wars prequels also suffer from running time. I feel they cram too much in a small amount of space. But that is going off-topic.

gregebowman · #23 March 31st, 2004, 11:45 PM

hickz, what you said about movie times is unfortunately all too true. I've read somewhere that most studios would rather release 90 minute movies so that they can be shown at the theatres more in a day than say something like one of the LOTR movies, which can only be shown 2 or 3 times during a day (maybe more during the summer when theatres open earlier). Don't go too much by what you read in the novelizations of movies. most of them are written based on early scripts, and by the time the author has finished the novel based on his script, the shooting script has probably been changed several times. That's why there are so many discrepancies sometimes between the books and the movies. Plus, Paramount has always stated that if you don't see it in the movies or the series, it isn't canon.

Captain Kwok · #24 April 1st, 2004, 02:02 AM

You're odd atrocities. You hate First Contact but like Insurrection?!

newbie123 · #25 April 1st, 2004, 06:45 AM

Out of all TNG movies, I think first contact was the best. I also liked nemesis alot. Didn't really like Insurrection too much, and generations was just ok. It'd be a shame not to have another star trek movie. Even if Picard wasn't in it, maybe have the dominion mobilize for war again or something. I don't know I'm not a writer

narf poit chez BOOM · #26 April 1st, 2004, 07:36 AM

News Flash: Next ST movie will feature Picard, Kirk, the Borg and Luke Skywalker.

Atrocities · #27 April 1st, 2004, 07:46 AM

hicksz you are so right.

And to think that Will Weaton (sp) was actually in the movie then cut was kinda a good bad thing IMHO. His character developed nicely in STGN, but was never explored after he went with the Traveler. (BTW I hated that whole concept)

They cut so much of the movie out that even the deleted scenes are only a fraction of it.

Oh well. You have to remember that we are all considered "Low on the intelligance totem pole" to be kind for what has been reportedly said about the fan bas by those who produce Star Trek, and yes, that is offensive.