OT: SE4 players thoughts on OTHER games

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please, by whatever you find holy, have the merciful generosity not to discuss CIV or SMAC on this thread. debates over those take over too many threads, as it is.

I am interested in hearing SE4 players thoughts on currently released space strategy or space tactical games, or those that are due out shortly that people may have an inside track on. I have tried to leave pure space flight-sims or shooters off the list.

on the upcoming list:

GALCIV: looks like fun, focus is on politics, but seems to have a very linear political progression. I like the description of the MOO3 political system better. boasts about its AI, but is it strong because it cheats? if so, how does it cheat?

MOO3: whats not to say? whats not to read on any review site. probably just have to wait for it to come out.

S!SNG: sure, like its ever coming out.

X2:The Threat: Elite and then some! whoo-hoo. hurry up and find a publisher!

Freelancer: if you liked privateer, its more of the same, from all the pre-reviews I have read.

Elite4: oh yeah, this one will come out right after S!SNG and VGA-Planets 4. in other words, it wont come out.

Imperium Galactica 3: looks to be a super-sweet capital ship combat simulator. other than this, i dont know too much.

Star Peace (name has changed): massive multiplayer sim city in space? eh?

and on the shorter list, games currently out that I am aware of:

Starships Unlimited: seems to be very limited. the focus was supposed to be ship design and combat, but i found this to be less detailed than in SE4. If there was more to it than what was in the demo, no one ever let on.

X:beyond the frontier (with/without x-tension): sounded cool, never really looked at it. how much strategy and economics were there? or was owning space stations simply a way to make money, and the economics were not really developed?

Battlecruiser Millenium: um, whatever. if anyone can tell me that this is an outstanding game, and is very different than the rest of its predecessors, i might listen.

Homeworld and sequel: formulaic RTS in space, but with 3d. more of the same, but its pretty.

Hegimonia: gosh the picutres look cool, but i hear its more homeworld stuff with linear missions, and not much else? but it has spying and colonies and research, so how can it be mission based? I DONT UNDERSTAND!