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What is the order Weapon Platforms are destroyed? Does it have sense building Large WP, containing 14 PSG-V (with 5250 shield points) + some other WP containig weapons? With the idea that shielded WP protects armed one.

Still shielded WP is better than Massive Planetary Shielding. Or maybe Large WP, containing 19 Organic Armor-III, is better? BTW, does Organic Armor regenerates damage inflicted to other WP, but on the same planet?

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The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.
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The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.
Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?
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The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.
Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?
You are right, Troops are hit before WPs because they have even less hit points.
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The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.
Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?
From my observations, all units in cargo on a planet are hit in ascending order from smallest to largest. It's a real pain when you play solo and the AI has 30 mines in cargo with multiple Weapon platforms, as your ships shoot out the mines, the weapon platforms shoot out your ships.
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Default Re: Order of destroying WPs?

Ganerally, for units, it's first on -- first hit. There may be some randomness though.

A shielded wp is a good idea, it at least protects the planet, but its more useful to hit back -- add some weapons to each.

There's nothing wrong with the massive planetary shield, it's just time consumeing to build for the protection it gives.

Organinc armor, IIRC, doesn't regenerate on units.

Remember, if you're playing the AI, it appears it can see the fire power you have in cargo, and will plan a fleet accordingly -- or just skip it for less defended worlds.
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The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.
Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?
You are right, Troops are hit before WPs because they have even less hit points.

Wasn't this changed in a recent patch?
I see now frequently troops remaining intact on a planet after I destroyed the weapon platforms in strategic combat.
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Thanx for the answers, they are really helpful.

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Organinc armor, IIRC, doesn't regenerate on units.
I didn't know this. Are there more components, which have different features depending on where are they placed (ships, WP)? E.g. I think placing ECM on WP has no sence because the planet still has a large diffensive disadvantage.
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Thanx for the answers, they are really helpful.

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Organinc armor, IIRC, doesn't regenerate on units.
I didn't know this. Are there more components, which have different features depending on where are they placed (ships, WP)? E.g. I think placing ECM on WP has no sence because the planet still has a large diffensive disadvantage.
It might make a difference in ground combat when troops are shooting at them. Not that that makes it a good idea to use ECM on them or anything.
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Default Re: Order of destroying WPs?

Would an apropriate test be to:
Control both sides
Prepare a planet with mines, troops, and weapons platforms
Weapons Platforms with no weapons
Send in a ship that could not destroy all of one type of unit in one turn
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I could try this tonight.
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