Does SEIV Need Income?

[Atrocities]

It occured to me that the one thing that SEIV is missing, aside from wheel mouse support , is an income system. IE population = credits = costs for improvements and ability to buy ships.

In addition to the resources needed, this would make good use of the Population. Its a late coming idea, and one that I am sure Aaron left out of the game for a reason. However, it would be cool to have.

[Suicide Junkie]

Do you mean taxation of your citizens, or a "fourth resource" of labour?

[Atrocities]

ya. ya thats it.

[Lemmy]

hmm, maybe also some sort of market system, where you could sell your excess resources to gain cash, and with the cash you could buy hightech ships from independent merchants.
Facilities could require upkeep, and ships require wages for the crew, but each facility would also earn you money throug taxes.
Then master computer would be good for something else too, besides unsubvertable, now it also doesn't require wages.

[Captain Kwok]

The only change I would like to see to the economic system is that population requires organics to eat and that's it.

[Lord Kodos]

Actually the fourth resource are supplies.As ive said many times space is a dangerous place and in LR its downright lethal.The Eating think may be possible.I imagine make a planet have the inherent ability to drain organics.I could be wrong.Id also like to see tax's like surely there a people living in Space Colonies and what not and they must pay tax's.Thats why in LR all stations except exclusivly military ones generate small sums of money.Also you can build Leisure Cruisers that make pop happy and gets some money for your coffers.

[Suicide Junkie]

Supplies in standard SE4 are not really a resource. It is too easy to aquire an infinite supply. I only consider the classic three in SE4 to be resources, and so that's why I said "Fourth resource"

If you were so include a limited supply mod and the labour effect you would be up to Five resources.

[ August 18, 2002, 03:13: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[oleg]

Oouuphhh, when I open this thread I was expecting some spin-off discussion about how much money MM made and how we are going to support SEIV when Sharpnel goes out of business
Instead it is a benign discussion about the game itself Well, rename "minerals" to $, "mineral mines" to "NY stock exchange" and the concept of galactic war financing become obvious. Or do you really expect to pay your crew members wages in rocks ?

[PvK]

Well gold is a mineral...

Personally I enjoy the absence of a monetary system, at least for some empires, because money is really a social population manipulation system, which not all empires would require.

It would be interesting if some empires needed to worry about internal political and monetary problems, and others didn't.

I would like to see population consuming resources (should be different types and amounts for different species - not everyone eats orgs).

I could also see places for labor, trained labor, and robot labor as resources. Certain empires could also be required to feed and not "jettison" nonproductive population, as well.

PvK

[Lord_Shleepy]

Originally posted by PvK:
Well gold is a mineral...

Personally I enjoy the absence of a monetary system, at least for some empires, because money is really a social population manipulation system, which not all empires would require.

PvK

Truly...a less specific system allows for much more modification/imagination. It's easy enough to believe that all of these financial transactions are taking place in the background of the SEIV universe. In fact, many details of the operation of the empire must be occuring in the background. Diplomatic missions, supply convoys, in-system commerce and trade, trade between species, individual citizens watering their lawns, etc. It's true that some modifications to the resource system would be nice...but too much would simply create a clutter and make an already complex game all that more "busy". Personally, I would rather concentrate on galactic domination than on balancing my books...that's what accounting slaves are are for. I can fuss over the intricacies of economics when paying my credit card bills.