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May 7th, 2016, 03:46 AM
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Ireland OOB?
Well almost all European nations are available but where's Ireland? Worth of own OOB at all? Same equipment as British have? Anyway, if it exist somewhere let me know ...
Warhero
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May 7th, 2016, 04:47 AM
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Re: Ireland OOB?
Back when they started SPMBT in 2002 (I think) nobody really plumped for Ireland or offered to do an Irish orbat. The same is true for Singapore, Venezuela, and a bunch of other countries.
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May 7th, 2016, 07:20 AM
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Re: Ireland OOB?
Closer in terms of kit to Austria than UK - Steyr Aug rifle and Piranha APC, No tanks (other than a few old scorpions)
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May 7th, 2016, 12:42 PM
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Re: Ireland OOB?
Add Irish kit to the UN orbat if you need them, as that is the only way they would be involved in conflicts.
e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jadotville
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May 7th, 2016, 01:27 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Ireland OOB?
IRISH equipment basic Textural OOB from a quick trawl of wikipedia:
NOTE A persistent problem with the Irish is that they're constantly running out of spares or other things for their vehicles. For example, their Comet tanks had all HE ammunition withdrawn because of faulty fuzes; and they never replaced it; making them anti tank vehicles only, etc.
Weapons:
Steyr AUG (1989-Present) with M203 GL.
Steyr AUG Enhanced aka Model 14 (2014-Present). ACOG 4x32 equipped. Carbine/Standard length variants
FN MAG (1964-Present)
M2HB (1970s-Present)
AT4 SRAAW (1997-Present)
Carl Gustav 84mm RCL
Javelin ATGM (2003-Present)
Vektor M1 60mm Mortar (2003-Present)
Long Barrelled 81mm Hotchkiss mortar
Ruag M87 120mm Mortar
105mm L118/L119 Howitzers (24 in total of both marks)
RBS-70 MANPAD. (1981-Present.) Just six launchers acquired!!!
Bofors EL-70 40mm AA Gun. (Late 1950s-Present). Obsolete, but used because of only six RBS-70 launchers in inventory)
Irish Armored vehicles
1 x Vickers Mk D Tank (1929-1940) with 6 pdr gun and 4 x .303 MGs
2 x Landsverk L60 (delivered 1935-36), in service until late 1960s.
4 x Leyland Armored Car (1940-Early 1980s). Used turret of Landsverk L60.
8 x Landsverk L180 Armored Car (1938-1980s). Madsden 20mm cannon replaced with 20mm cannons from Vampire jets in 1970s.
[lots of minor armored cars cut out, I don't have infinite time]
226 x Bren Carriers (26 Mk I in 1940, 100 Mk II in 1943, 100 Mk II in 1945), In service 1940-early 1960s.
4 x Churchill Mk VI (1948-1969).
8 x Comets (1959-1973) (4 x in 1959, 4 x 1960) Faulty fuses caused HE ammunition to be withdrawn.
80 x Mowag Piranha IIIH (2001-Present)
....45 x APCs with 12.7mm MG and coax 7.62mm MG
....18 x Close Recon Vehicles, 12.7mm MG or 40mm GL in Kongsberg Protector RWS)
....6 x Medium Recon Vehicles, OTO Melara turret mounting 30mm Mk44 Bushmaster II.
16 x Panhard AML-60-7 CS (1964-1999) - Armed with 60mm DTAT Cloche Special mortar and 2 x 7.62mm MGs. In late 1970s, mortars were inoperable. in 1989, the twin MGs were replaced wiht a single .50 MG.
16 x Panhard AML-60-7 HB (1971-2013) - Armed with 60mm Hotchkiss-Brandt Mortar.
20 x AML-90 (1971-2013). Had H-90 turret with 90mm F1 gun and 7.62mm CMG.
16 x Panhard AML-20 (1999-2013) - AML-60-7 CS rebuilt with 20mm G12 cannon and 7.62mm coaxial MG.
60 x Panhard M3 VTT APC (1972-1989/90) Came with TL.21.80 turret with 2 x 7.62mm MGs.
5 x Timoney Mk IV APCs (1978-late 1980s). Twin 7.62mm MG turret 4x4 APC.
5 x Timoney Mk VI APCs (1983-1999). .50 MG and 7.6mm MG turret. 4x4 APC.
14 x Scorpion CRV(T) (1980-Present). Only 6 actually operational today.
32 x RG-32M LTAV from South Africa (April 2010-Present). Open topped 7.62mm MG or RWS with 12.7mm HMG or 40mm GL.
12 x Ford F350 SRVs. Essentially heavy duty trucks for "LRRPs"
6 x AW139 Helicopters
7 x Pilatus PC-9 trainers which can be armed with weapons.
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May 7th, 2016, 01:40 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Ireland OOB?
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Originally Posted by troopie
The same is true for Singapore, Venezuela, and a bunch of other countries.
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It's hard to believe, but 2002 was a long time ago -- almost fifteen years now.
The world's changed a lot -- Singapore from 1968-20xx operated just the AMX-13; and then they just jumped to the Leopard 2A4 then to Leopard 2SG -- that's going from 'no sizzle' to lot of 'sizzle'.
Same with Venezuela. No sizzle for a long time, then Comrade Hugo shows up and starts buying Russian kit like it's going out of style.
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May 8th, 2016, 10:12 AM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Ireland OOB?
Here's a crude early attempt at an Irish OOB by extending the United Nations OBAT080 to include them.
I haven't done Irish infantry or put in their weapons, and there are some placeholders such as the Timoney APCs -- they're reserved, but no data is done.
One set of graphics is incorrect -- unit #521 Piranha III APC -- the Irish bought it with a small one man turret containing a .50 and .30 -- I don't feel like doing a set of special graphics and packing a SHP right now, so...
Key Formations to use:
Irish Arm Trp/Sqdn/Tank (Squadron Disappears 1973 with retirement of last tanks, as Ireland only bought 14 Scorpions in total.)
Irish APC / 2 Irish APC / 4 Irish APC - Contains the Irish APCs from Bren gun carriers to the Pirhanha IIIH.
Scout Car Pl: Contains the AML vehicles (AML-60-7, AML-20, AML-90).
Notes:
Irish Units start at #500.
Irish Weapons are marked * at end, e.g. "30mm A/C*" to show what's new and not compared to WinMBTv10 OOBs.
Irish Formations start at #800.
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May 9th, 2016, 06:31 PM
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Re: Ireland OOB?
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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard
One set of graphics is incorrect -- unit #521 Piranha III APC -- the Irish bought it with a small one man turret containing a .50 and .30 -- I don't feel like doing a set of special graphics and packing a SHP right now, so...
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Knocked out a set of graphics this afternoon for the Irish Piranha IIIH with the .50/.30 turret.
Reference image also included for future reference.
Full size image URL:
https://milinme.files.wordpress.com/...fa3fb0a4_o.jpg
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