Possible error

[Imp]

Offmap rockets
Greek OOB Unit 102, RM-70 Section
Turkish OOB Units 141 & 918,122mm T122 Platoon
Both have a ROF of 40 & hence 80 ammo, I am guessing it should be ROF 20 & 40 ammo.
I think in both these OOBs there are further problems with rocket arty, I believe convention is generally ROF = to half the ammo loadout for them & several have ROF = to ammo.
Sorry I did not make a note of them


Also Greek
Unit 417, MG3 MMG
Can this be renamed to LMG as they are LMGs & not MMGs

[Mobhack]

Presumably you mean unit 417 of the Turkish OOB since Greece does not have a #417(?)

Unit 417 on the Turkish OOB is an MMG, well, because its an MMG on a tripod type thingy (visible under the MG on its LBM), and of one of the MG unit classes that produces a blast circle like SFMGs do and LMGs do not.

Furthermore, when putting up error reports - please can we have a useful title for the thread. "Possible error in the Greek and Turkish OOBS" would have been better. Better yet - a separate post for each nation's error, not a mish-mash. There is a reason why the error reporting procedure says not to mix up several different OOBS in the one error report. Please stick to the procedure in future

Andy

[Mobhack]

Beh.

Turkish (not Greek) units #417, 418 are borked after all - the slot 1 weapon is actually the wrong one - should be weapon #28, not #23.

Andy

[Imp]

Sorry about that did in a hurry as was going out, yes did mean Turkish unit 417. Lumped both rockets together as same problem & am guessing OOB done by the same guy.

[DRG]

On the list.......

I simply do not have time ATM to dig into this but all the on and off map rockets were standardized for the last release and the "convention" was changed and this is why all off map rm-70's are the same in all ten nations that use them so I'm guessing your "guessing" is wrong but nonetheless, I will look into it when I have time to do so and dig through my notes.

The MG issue is as Andy says. Minor error using LMG instead of correct MMG.


Don

[DRG]

Single on map RM-70

weapon 1 =40 rockets
+
weapon 2 =40 rockets

20 ROF means 20 rockets are fired from "weapon 1" and 20 rockets are fired from "weapon 2" for an actual ROF of 40 and this gives the unit itself 2 salvos. We do it this way so players can shut down one weapon if they want and stretch the weapons usefulness so single on map rocket units can be used a bit more "subtlety" than off map units can. 40 + 40 rockets means they have 80 rockets per units, just as the off map ones do

Off map RM-70 sections are deliberately NOT given the ability to fire a half salvo because we only have 4 weapons slots to work with but you can shut down one or two of the weapons and only fire 40 rockets at a time if you like just as the single on map unit can if it fires both "weapons" at once

Three single rocket launchers are usually represented though it could be 2 or 4

80 rockets
80 rockets
80 rockets

40 ROF means each individual unit is firing 40 rockets ( just like the on map unit is when both weapons are "on" ) and they get two salvos.

So everything is as it should be.



Don

[Imp]

Okay cheers just struck me as unsual as never come across a rocket with that amount of ammo before so mentioned it.

[DRG]

RM-70

40 tubes + 40 additional 122mm rockets for quick reload = 80

Don