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May 4th, 2010, 05:57 PM
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Ban-a-thon
Wow. I go away for a few weeks and some of the most knowledgable players in the game have been mass banned? Makes me question why I came back. Is there a boilerplate comment about the incident?
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May 4th, 2010, 06:04 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
might wanna check out these threads: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45509 ; http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45498
it all started with Sombre getting perma banned for "disregarding the forum rules" which later turned into "he was treated with silk gloves but enough is enough" and than the majority of the community jumped into the thick of things in Sombre's defense, things got quite rough and the mods decided to not let it slide and ban the main "troublemakers" as they(not me) called them, so Maerlande, Frozen Lama and Trumanator were also perma banned. don't think anybody else was, but I do know that Burnsaber also left these forums due to this whole incident, so now the modding forums is missing its 2 main contributors(Sombre and Burnsaber).
for more information hop into our IRC channel, there's still an ongoing discussion about this even now, the ripples of it just won't die...
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May 4th, 2010, 06:41 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
Mass Ban? I thought it was 2
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May 4th, 2010, 06:44 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
There were 4.
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May 4th, 2010, 06:50 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
Ironhawk:
But Shrapnel people were much better at insulting
Anyway, new forums are coming, I wonder how many people will stay here... I guess both sides will be happy. We, that we don't have to deal with Shrapnel and Shrapnel that does not have to bother about people that already bought the game.
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May 4th, 2010, 07:35 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
ok I found out (asked in IRC)
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May 4th, 2010, 07:48 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
At the risk of being unpopular, I have always found that forum trolls are always of detriment to the community regardless of whatever contributions they make. They drive away new people and make others want to leave or not participate.
Any mods those guys made are contributions prior. They can still play--they just can't be nasty on the forums which is how it was explained.
If they want to get hot over spitting in the face of the mods after being offered a chance to return, that's fine. I'm sure there are other people who will be more than willing to take up the slack that was left from their departure, and perhaps with weeds pulled the community as a whole will be better off.
I don't have anything against any of them personally, nor do I know the event that caused the bans in the first place and I don't care. I have been on many forums and without qualification, trolls are always a negative force regardless of how much useful information may be stored within them. Anything within them can be found elsewhere.
I spent probably 30 minutes the other day responding to what I thought was a request for strategy assistance only to find that it was some dude trolling and trying to start fights by insulting anyone who tried to help in earnest for whatever purpose. That thread has been deleted. Forums are Dictatorships not Democracies. Rules are generalities not absolutes. Mods have discretionary power to do what they decide is best for the community in general.
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May 4th, 2010, 07:59 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
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May 4th, 2010, 08:08 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
How does banning even work? If it's just based on the name, then its a trivial matter to re-register under a different one.
If its based on IP, most people don't have a static one. And if whole ranges of IPs are blocked, you're potentially banning innocents that use the same ISP.
That's why I'm convinced that Norfleet is still lurking around here somewhere ...
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May 4th, 2010, 08:17 PM
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Re: Ban-a-thon
How does any punishment work for anything? Internet or real world. Same comments, same answers.
And I agree about Norfleet.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...1&postcount=35
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