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January 7th, 2009, 06:37 PM
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Hinnom and Death gems
Does Hinnom have any uses for death gems beyond shadow brands?
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January 7th, 2009, 09:59 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
well, in general it has the same uses as anyone else, just less pressing (due to recruitable sc's), and with greater difficulty (due to only having d1).
but some of the blood uniques have death, and that can bump hinnom up into casting good spells... demiliches, say, and forging standards of the dammed. Spectres for a bit of diversity.
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January 7th, 2009, 10:42 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
You can also empower a D1 in blood, wear some rings, and summon Vampire Lords, if all the Helios are gone.
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January 7th, 2009, 10:48 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
yeah, well, I think I had 400 death gems saved up by the end of Hellscape 
which brings up another use, as I was planning on alchemizing them into astral in order to wish for more blood ... |
January 7th, 2009, 11:11 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
Aside from Death being easy to bootstrap, Hinnom has access to D3 casters via vampires (who can easily summon demiliches if you want). You won't have a lot of cross-path Death spells like Banefire, but Darkness is an obvious choice for battlefield magic (given the Blood summons), and of course never say no to Manifestation or Ghost Riders.
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January 7th, 2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
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Originally Posted by MaxWilson
Aside from Death being easy to bootstrap, Hinnom has access to D3 casters via vampires (who can easily summon demiliches if you want). You won't have a lot of cross-path Death spells like Banefire, but Darkness is an obvious choice for battlefield magic (given the Blood summons), and of course never say no to Manifestation or Ghost Riders.
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well, hinnom can't summon vampire lords w/out either empowering, or getting one of the two blood uniques w/ death (gorillon the heliophagus, or pazazu the demon lord). |
January 7th, 2009, 11:50 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
There are 2 Helios with death: a B3D4, and the B3D3 reaper guy.
Empowering a B1 and summoning a Vamp Lord is cheaper (50+44 vs 111) and safer (since you might get the wrong Helio, or they might all be taken).
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January 7th, 2009, 11:53 PM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
eh, I like helios... happy to summon some anyways 
even easier is just summoning a demi lich or a mound fiend. Hinnom has strong astral, and should be getting rings of sorc and wizardry as it is... |
January 8th, 2009, 12:05 AM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
Oh yeah. I was assuming that Hinnom would be wearing those rings on the B1 guy anyway. Doh. 
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January 8th, 2009, 12:23 AM
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Re: Hinnom and Death gems
lol ;p
of course, vampires might be earlier on hinnom's research path; though, if so, death mages are consequently of less import as well.
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