How to Subjugate your neighbours

[Saxon]

Can anyone tell me what sort of criteria are needed before you can get subjugation or protectorate treaty?

I remember reading that to get someone to surrender outright, you need to be ten times their size. However, I have never seen any stats on subjugation and protectorate. I assume I can go into some date file to find this out, but as I said in another thread, I am the guy they invented Windows for�

Please have mercy on your technologically challenged brethren!

[Slaughtermeyer]

I think it's 8 times their size for subjugation and 6 times for protectorate.

[Puke]

setup an industrial base in their empire, pay their pesants the bare minimum you can get away with to have them make goods for you that are non-essential to them. then sell them all the essentials they need that they cant or are no longer producing.

but dont make the mistake of trying to sell their own goods back to them like the British did with American furniture or Oriantal opium. THAT kind of **** backfires BIGTIME.

[tesco samoa]

Ha Ha Ha

Actually since I play against people at work I go out and eat taco bell and then come back and visit the cubes and talk treaties.

In the game. I find it really hard doing that stuff on human players. And I would not do it since you know they will stab your back first chance they get. ( If not carry it over to the next game)

If I must quote

1. Crush your enemies
2. Lay waste to their villages
3. Hear the sweet lamination of their woman

That is it.

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[Saxon]

Laying waste to your enemies is, naturally, my goal and the only reason I ask this question!

Seriously, sometimes I would like the extra resources, but am too stretched to crush a small, usually one system, race. Once I beat the big enemy down, I can turn to knocking enough points off another player to get them to surrender.

Does one need to have peaceful relations with the other nation before they will accept the treaty or can they be at war with you? In other words, is beating them down to a sixth or an eighth of your size and then demanding a treaty possible?

[Stone Mill]

tesco,

Isn't it (with Austrian accent):

1. Clush your enemies
2. See them driven before you
3. Hear the lamentation of dehr women

Although with SEIV it could be lamenation, of the women but you would need ALOT of pLastic!!

[Baron Munchausen]

Yes, yes... most people are familiar with that quote from Conan the Barbarian, staring Ahnold. But the original is historically attributed to Chengiz Khan. Obviously, it was translated from the Mongolian. Since few know what a Mongolian accent would have sounded like, we just live with the standard English pronunciation most of the time.