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October 13th, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Kugelblitz and Company.
Evening all,
I have been toying with creating interim self propelled Flak units for my German OOB (Post entitled "Das Reich") and have hit a snag. I cannot model the Kugelblitz's turret. It is truly beyond my capabilities. I have tried using a Duster turret instead and it just looks awful. My attempts at making a Coelion and Super Coelion have turned out better but without the Kugelblitz the Mod will be alcking some decent affordable punch.
Can anyone help? I will post up my Coelions later as well as some reference photos of that damn Kugelblitz turret. Remember folks it has to fit on top of a Pz IV.
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October 13th, 2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
Ok. This is for Plasmakrab.
First, the Wirbelwind Chasis, followed by some pictures of the Kugelblitz (something approaching top down) and finally containing the numerous attempts at a Coelion (yes one of those too) turret I made. Colour wise each seems a little odd to me and size wise, well you will see.
Nothing here worth downloading folks.
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October 14th, 2007, 03:39 PM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
Did you know that there were essentially two Panther Coelians? A 2x37mm one and a 2 x 55mm One?
Plus, there were proposals to mount a MRLS launcher on a panther chassis.
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October 14th, 2007, 03:44 PM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
What about the "Super Coelian" or whatever it was called? Was it the Zwilling-55 Mark mentions or a derivate using a newer chassis, or something else still?
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October 14th, 2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
As far as I can tell it was a regular Coelian with twin 55s and a turret to accomodate them. I would put the turret on a Tiger II (Panther III) chasis.
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October 14th, 2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
The Kugelblitz turret was also proposed for installation on a Hetzer Chassis:
There was also proposal for 105mm L68 gun in the Tiger II
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October 15th, 2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
37mm Coelian
55mm Coelian
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October 15th, 2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
Panther based SPH
Open topped Flakpanzer Gerat 58
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October 15th, 2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
A Assault Mortar based on the Panther Chassis; replacement for the Brummbar?
MRLS based on Panther
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October 15th, 2007, 12:23 PM
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Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
Monty,
I might be able to help you out with this. I already have a pretty good Pz IV collection. The Kugelblitz is the one AA variant I hadn't done yet, but with the resources you have here, that shouldn't be too hard to do at all for me. All the Panther variants I can add to my set when I get to it, or I can go about and knock the Panther set out. Here is my newest Panzer IV set to date, that I'll base it from.
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