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Default Question about \'None\' atmosphere.

Logically speaking, shouldn't a race with 'None' atmosphere be able to settle on any planet/atmosphere type and have full use of the planet? You can't breathe vacuum, so I have to conclude that races with 'none' for atmosphere don't breathe, and if they don't breathe then wouldn't all planets be equal to them(excluding planet size)?
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Old March 27th, 2006, 02:26 PM
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Well, looking at it from logical point of view; if they breathe 'none' atmosphere they basically don't breathe at all. So I'd say you are correct, strictly from logical point of view, that race should not care about atmosphere when colonizing planets.
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Default Re: Question about \'None\' atmosphere.

Maybe if they're subject to any type of atmospheric pressure at all, they implode?
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Default Re: Question about \'None\' atmosphere.

Perhaps atmospheric gases are toxic to them, if they even come into casual 'skin' contact with them.
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Default Re: Question about \'None\' atmosphere.

If they live in a "none" atmosphere, they'd experience no atmospheric pressure, and, although implosion probably wouldn't happen (at least with humans and similar species, we're mostly made up out of uncompressible liquids so we'd just die and spout gore), they'd experience extreme discomfort and there's a great chance that they'll die of pressure trauma. It's the opposite of what happens when you take a deep-sea fish to the surface; it's built for high environmental pressures, the pressure drops, the fish actually explodes - if you were to take a None breather to a planet with an atmosphere, the pressure would kill him. Same reason why a human shouldn't go swimming around a submarine when it's in deep water.
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Default Re: Question about \'None\' atmosphere.

That's what I just said. The implosion is just to give you a funny mental image.
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If they live in a "none" atmosphere, they'd experience no atmospheric pressure, and, although implosion probably wouldn't happen (at least with humans and similar species, we're mostly made up out of uncompressible liquids so we'd just die and spout gore), they'd experience extreme discomfort and there's a great chance that they'll die of pressure trauma. It's the opposite of what happens when you take a deep-sea fish to the surface; it's built for high environmental pressures, the pressure drops, the fish actually explodes - if you were to take a None breather to a planet with an atmosphere, the pressure would kill him. Same reason why a human shouldn't go swimming around a submarine when it's in deep water.
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Default Re: Question about \'None\' atmosphere.

Ya, "None" does not equal "Any", which could be another type, but isn't in SE4. I know at least one game that did have an "Any" type, but it cost balance points to take that, naturally.

Of course, the pressure considerations, and others (mixture, temperature, radiation, etc) would realistically be almost all wrong on all non-native worlds. The typical Sci Fi handwave "Hmm, looks like Earth-like conditions on that random planet we just happen to be flying by..." would be ridiculously rare, unless the planets were terraformed somehow...

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Maybe an ancient race made these warppoints, also terraforming the planets into the same pressure or whatever. There could be a SE4 campaign, with story and everything. Hmmmm....
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I concurr.
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