Tank Main Gun vs Helo's

BigJim · #1 September 27th, 2005, 04:15 AM

Can anyone shed some light on this situation in a real life setting??? I have NEVER seen nor heard of a tank taking down a helo with its main gun, yet in this game it is a regular occurrance????

Mobhack · #2 September 27th, 2005, 04:40 AM

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BigJim said:
Can anyone shed some light on this situation in a real life setting??? I have NEVER seen nor heard of a tank taking down a helo with its main gun, yet in this game it is a regular occurrance????

Against a very slow moving or hovering helo, it is not a large problem. Helo low is 50 or so feet, and high is really only 200-500 feet or so.

Keep helos moving so they get too difficult to track wit the main gun - if you hover, you are just a target waiting to be bisected by a 2000+ foot per second shell

Cheers
Andy

JaM · #3 September 27th, 2005, 06:42 AM

Israeli Merkava Mk4 and Mk3 BAZ are capable track even helicopters moving at high speed due to autotracker

hveldenz · #4 September 27th, 2005, 08:46 AM

I have noticed this too. In my experience with a US vs China/NK campaign in the 90's, it seems to be the more modern Chinese MBT (type 98s and Type 85-II/IIIs) that try that trick. I haven noticed an anomoly though (And I don't know how to get a save game for this event): An AH-64D fires at a MBT 30-40 hexes with a Hellfire from a standing hover - a hidden MBT fires its main gun (1-3% hit chance by the yellow bar - First MBT is scorched by the Hellfire at 99% hit and brews up - AH-64D still has same number of Shots, esp. another hellfire, for the turn! It is like an extra shot if you survive.

Seems like a coding quirk or bug.

I move all my helos 20 or so hexes before the turns end, and that seems to cut down on main gun fire. And with the AH-64D - I hang them back due to their 60 VIsion

Double_Deuce · #5 September 27th, 2005, 09:21 AM

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BigJim said:
Can anyone shed some light on this situation in a real life setting??? I have NEVER seen nor heard of a tank taking down a helo with its main gun, yet in this game it is a regular occurrance????

In the US Army we trained to engage helo's BUT it was only to be done IF you or another tank in your unit were being engaged.

MajorBrian · #6 September 27th, 2005, 09:31 PM

One of my tanker friends used to talk about how the Snake Drivers (AH-1W)would get pissed when they were tracked by an M-1A1.

WBWilder · #7 September 28th, 2005, 12:56 AM

Interesting. I've often wondered about that possibility. I guess even Helos need to keep their distance. I would guess that even a near miss could be disastrous for a copter...or would it?

Wild Bill

BigJim · #8 September 28th, 2005, 01:59 AM

Thanks guys being an old fart like WB I never heard of such things happening but I guess in modern warfare things have gotten MUCH more complicated.

Marek_Tucan · #9 September 28th, 2005, 05:20 AM

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BigJim said:
Thanks guys being an old fart like WB I never heard of such things happening but I guess in modern warfare things have gotten MUCH more complicated.

During the Yom Kippur war, a Syrian helo was taken out by a direct hit of L7 HESH round from Centurion...

AFAIK during WWII even a Shturmovik was downed with a Tiger's 88.

While these cases being rather exceptions and shows of good luck, but modern fire control makes the task much easier IMO.

WBWilder · #10 September 28th, 2005, 11:17 AM

Ah, you still haven't caught me, big Jim, (but you're getting closer!)