New illwinter pages ??

[Shael]

ok what of the following you would rather see as illwinter home page

http://members.surfeu.fi/ari.ovaska/koe/ DOMX wractacles desinegt pages

or

www.illwinter.com (current pages)

or

the old illwinter pages

[ December 11, 2003, 01:09: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

[Kristoffer O]

Something without flash or explorer! Otherwise the Ovaska page looks nice.

We'll stick to the simple layout for the moment. We needed something new with Dominions II and Shrapnel, but we're interested to hear what you prefer.

The current page is not to be permanent. On the other hand we're not likely to remake it ourselves in the near future.

* Edit: oh, the flash components seems to have vanished. Good *

* Second Edit: much nicer than earlier today *

[ December 10, 2003, 19:46: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]

[Gandalf Parker]

Its a very nice page. Nice work. Personally I like darker pages.

But Illwinter seems to like lighter colors and their page will be easier for them to keep updated. Plus the older simpler code works in more browsers and servers.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
The current page is not to be permanent. On the other hand we're not likely to remake it ourselves in the near future.

As always (me making suggestions in this area) I think you could go for a flashier first page. Just images and color. The pages behind that can (and should) be kept simple and easy to update.

[ December 10, 2003, 19:45: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

[Shael]

1st i need to apoligize my bad english (or rather miss types) and im not the maker of the pages (all tho i have promision to make this "poll" here) as for the explorer issue is only a minor detail at the momoen what i want to know is what people think of the GRAPHICAL out look (as the current is as horrible as it is (no offence))
for me (as it surely works) id rather see that page (maybe after some editing? ) for now
id rather see the old page (as it proven to be working and looks ok)

[Kristoffer O]

I also like the new graphical look better than the ugly page. Nice is known to be better looking than ugly.

I would like to see the pics of our games displayed on the first page though.

And as Gandalf said, I would prefer if I could add and alter things easily in the interior (new maps, mods and such).

[Gandalf Parker]

What Illwinter has now as a first page isnt horrible. But it is horrible as a first page. Its actually quite easily read and would be a good news page. (congrats on moving up to tables)

The first page can be as graphical and eye-catching as possible if its setup as one that wont get updated much. I would recommend an effort to have the links that move deeper into the site pop up first, very fast. And be simple enough to work with all browsers (even non-graphical ones). That way the people who can and would like to see the full effect of the first page are the only ones forced to wait for it.

[Nerfix]

I prefer Wractale's pages over the current ones because they are a bit easier to use(no need to hit the back-button), they have a bit nicer colors(i don't like pink that much... ) and are less cluttered(the link pictures at IW's are cluttered nowadays).

Pink...

It seems that you can get to the main page with a single click, but it is quite well hidden...

OTOH, I know that Wractale just LOVES flash and non-simplistic code.

[ December 10, 2003, 21:10: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

[Mortifer]

I like the new layout of the official site.
Simple but easy to use.

[Jasper]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
We'll stick to the simple layout for the moment. We needed something new with Dominions II and Shrapnel, but we're interested to hear what you prefer.

I'd recommend looking into Plone. It's very easy to setup (a couple of minutes for something like the default layout), and yet is powerfull.