Cursed Talisman

[Joachim]

I despise this piece of technology. In fact it ruins PBW games by its existence. It makes economic management, carful ship design and reasonable play worthless.

Let me apologise to those people in NGC4 as I am using this silly game feature. In Negoc5 and Zeta, I also apologise, allthough given the game background and set up to not take religious was very, very brave.

Large PBW games become which team led by the talisman wins, others are merely targets or 'allies' to the mighty Talisman empire(s).

So, please, PLEASE dont put a Talisman in SEV.

[se5a]

if it didnt work vs fighters, drones, and misiles it would help...
then you could attempt to swamp the tailsman user with units

and make it more expencive so that only a certain number of ships can have it...

himnn howabout the more you have the cost multiplys?
so if oyu had 1 ship with it, it would cost X min,org,rad
if you have 2 it costs 1.5*X
etc. etc.

[bearclaw]

Better yet, what if you only had a certain number that could be built?

Perhaps a Talisman I means that you can build 2. Thats it. Only 2 ships in your entire empire could have it.

Talisman II means that 3 could be built

etc.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Joachim:
I despise this piece of technology. In fact it ruins PBW games by its existence. It makes economic management, carful ship design and reasonable play worthless.

Let me apologise to those people in NGC4 as I am using this silly game feature. In Negoc5 and Zeta, I also apologise, allthough given the game background and set up to not take religious was very, very brave.

Large PBW games become which team led by the talisman wins, others are merely targets or 'allies' to the mighty Talisman empire(s).

So, please, PLEASE dont put a Talisman in SEV.

I fully agree, and to those few in Zeta who doesn't have the talisman, I too apologize for the usage of ths abominable device at my races behalf.

[Paul1980au]

How about a talismant linked shield - ie if ship a is using talisman - then ship b being targetted will take 2000 points of damagae from such ships in addition to their normal damange - or yes make fighters etc more immune from it.

Or perhaps a planet construct that can block its use within the system.

[General Woundwort]

One mod (I don't remember which offhand) has "Prayer Lances", that have 100% chance to hit, but otherwise are a normal weapon (they do good damage IIRC). Replacing the Talisman with a "talismanic" weapon like that might be less unbalancing. That's what I'm planning on doing in the MOAM Mod.

[se5a]

actualy thats a verry good idea, a 100% chance to hit but does less damage.
infact just make it a mount.

[Renegade 13]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
I fully agree, and to those few in Zeta who doesn't have the talisman, I too apologize for the usage of ths abominable device at my races behalf.

I would be one of those few...thus far it hasn't been too difficult...but I'm not exactly doing well anyways, which is in no way due to the Talisman, but to my own incompetence!!

[Fyron]

You can give them 1 boarding defense ability point like I did in Adamant (in addition to making them combat sensors instead of 100% to hit). Then, add a component that does Security Stations Only damage. You can then corrupt their talismans and make them non-functional (plus get a new weapon to help board ships ).

[ June 12, 2004, 17:43: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Baron Munchausen]

In the beta group we suggested that the Talisman be reduced in power by either making it work only with certain weapons - and adding the 'always hits' power to a particular weapon is another way to do that -- or by making it only function every few rounds. If it only gives you a 'guaranteed hit' every other or every third combat round that would be much less unbalancing. But then I guess you could mod that by making the dedicated weapon only fire every other or every third round.

I'd still like to see a 'time slip' device given to the Temporal tech field that gives a flat chance for any weapon, even a Talisman guided weapon, to miss.