Coincidence ??

oleg · #1 March 12th, 2004, 03:20 PM

We still don't know who is responcible for the horrendous acts of terrorism in Spain yesterday.
It may be ETA or Al-Quida. But if you look on the timing, 03/11/04 - 9/11/2001 = 911 days exactly !

Got to be Al-Quida I think.

geoschmo · #2 March 12th, 2004, 03:31 PM

That is interesting. And It certainly could be AQ. But do they really try that hard to schedule their attacks around significant days like that? Wouldn't a terrorist organization be more interested in hitting you when and where you aren't expecting it? When it makes the least amount of sense? So that you feel fear all the time?

If it's AQ or ETA, or both, I think the date is probably coincidence more then anything else. The did it that day because that is when they were ready to do it and had the opportunity.

Geoschmo

geoschmo · #3 March 12th, 2004, 03:35 PM

Besides, I think it was actaully 912 days between those two dates. Of course Osama might have forgot about leap year.

oleg · #4 March 12th, 2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
That is interesting. And It certainly could be AQ. But do they really try that hard to schedule their attacks around significant days like that? Wouldn't a terrorist organization be more interested in hitting you when and where you aren't expecting it? When it makes the least amount of sense? So that you feel fear all the time?

If it's AQ or ETA, or both, I think the date is probably coincidence more then anything else. The did it that day because that is when they were ready to do it and had the opportunity.

Geoschmo

But did anybody see it coming ?? Nobody expected it, there was no alarm anywhere in the world.

Yes, there was 911 days between bLasts but it was on the 912h day.

Slick · #5 March 12th, 2004, 04:08 PM

I would say that they do try to "schedule" these things. It is their way of showing that they can pull off a coordinated attack when they want. Also, having it on significant days or similar dates to the previous attacks gives them more "credibility" when they claim responsibility. Sickos.

Slick.

geoschmo · #6 March 12th, 2004, 04:35 PM

Well, I'm no expert, but ISTR in the past when AQ has made attacks they are quite often cordinated as in there will be multiple attacks timed to go off at the same time. But that they don't neccesarily coincide with any significant date. I know people have tried to make various cases about it, but it's always appeared to be a bit of a stretch.

This is a good example. If they wanted it to be 911 days since 911 they would have attacked on 3/10, not 3/11. I think it was likely just a coincidence.

But in the long history of the various conflicts that spur this sort of terrorism, you could throw a dart on the wall and it wouldn't be more then a few days away from some "significant" date.

tesco samoa · #7 March 12th, 2004, 05:02 PM

I am not trying to start something here

but did they ever proove that is was the AL-Q on the attacks on 911.

I remember they were going to release proof of this but to my knowledge it has never occured.

Again I do not mean to be disrepectful.

Me thinks it is the ETA... As it is leading up to the Euro's I am thinking that this was a way of them attempting to keep the tourists away.

Baron Munchausen · #8 March 12th, 2004, 05:21 PM

Don't attribute too much coordination to this 'freelance' network. Al Qaida is not a tight hierarchy, and never was. Very few 'terrorist' Groups are. Osama doesn't get reports and give direct approval on each attack anymore. It's just lots of Arab/Muslim malcontents who are recruited to form cells by people who had training in Afghanistan some years ago. The date being the 11th of the month is almost certainly co-incidence but the style certainly does resemble what we've seen from Al Qaida before. Someone associated with Al Qaida was involved, but it could be easily by both ETA and Al Qaida together if some ETA people were 'recruited' by a random Al Qaida operative. This is not like national governments with clear definitions of jurisdiction between one or the other. It's just an underworld of desperate radicals who will join with anyone else that can help them cause a disaster and make themselves feel powerful.

[ March 12, 2004, 15:23: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

Slick · #9 March 12th, 2004, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
I am not trying to start something here

but did they ever proove that is was the AL-Q on the attacks on 911.

I remember they were going to release proof of this but to my knowledge it has never occured.

Again I do not mean to be disrepectful.

Me thinks it is the ETA... As it is leading up to the Euro's I am thinking that this was a way of them attempting to keep the tourists away.

I believe that it was proven with the photos of the hijackers entering the airport terminals and the link between that Muhammed Atta guy and AQ.

Slick.

gregebowman · #10 March 12th, 2004, 06:55 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but who or what is the ETA? Never heard of them, but from what was posted it sounds like sort of European or maybe a Basque group? If they catch these guys, how about they make them take a long walk on a short pier in the alligator-infested Everglades? But then, it is a federal crime to poison the 'gators.

[ March 12, 2004, 16:56: Message edited by: gregebowman ]