Fools Lament II - Ended - Mictlan wins!!!

[Peter Ebbesen]

archaeolept said:
Ahh - just delete the #scenario from the .map

Just be damn careful, if you do that, that you do not override some of the more important settings. E.g. if you remove the #scenario, you can set the number of starting provinces, and this number does not take the number of provinces granted in the scenario file into account.

Anyhow, have fun spellslinging. I predict a weird game for you all, as some of the special sites can have a substantial influence on strategies if you let them. E.g. certain nations are rather more dangerous summoners than they are usually, and an Iron Faith Ulm going for massed Templars and a decent blessing might even be feasible.

...And don't play with a human Atlantis without R'lyeh and/or Ermor, or they will slay you all.

For those (if any) unaccustomed to special sites that let you enter them, they can be entered by one commander (usually a specific magic type commander) per turn only, by giving him the strategic "enter site" command. If you have a monster-generating site, it nearly always pays off to park mages there for permanent summoning over time. Some of the troops granted are not negligible.

[deccan]

We have no water nations in this map, but this means that Ermor will have free rein of Atlantis' provinces since they're controlled by AI.

I think that some nations have better advantages that others. Conjuration and Construction bonuses rock. Alteration bonus (Pythium) is less cool because there are few early game Alteration rituals.

[Soapyfrog]

Server is up and running.

We'll do 24h quickhost until turn 20 then go over to 48h quickhost (unless there are objections).

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Peter Ebbesen said:
Just be damn careful, if you do that, that you do not override some of the more important settings. E.g. if you remove the #scenario, you can set the number of starting provinces, and this number does not take the number of provinces granted in the scenario file into account.

Yeah I carefully tested it a few times to discover all the pitfalls. Tricky... it would be WAY easier if you could set all the game options in the .map file! Well maybe you can but I couldn't figure out how

[Peter Ebbesen]

deccan said:
We have no water nations in this map, but this means that Ermor will have free rein of Atlantis' provinces since they're controlled by AI.

Set the AIs to impossible as the map is intended for, then.

I think that some nations have better advantages that others. Conjuration and Construction bonuses rock. Alteration bonus (Pythium) is less cool because there are few early game Alteration rituals.

First, it is damn sure that some nations have better advantages than others. While I have tried to achieve a modicrum of balance, the Nasty Edition has primarily been designed for SP use, and thus it is practically guaranteed to be unbalanced in some respects. So? The challenge is to do the best with the hand you are dealt rather than make everything equal or wishing you had somebody elses hand. (The real challenge, of course, is to steal their hand and make their advantages yours. ) In fact, it is vitally important to inspect the map and your starting position before designing your Pretender, as some starting positions enhance strategies that are otherwise not common.

Some nations definitely have better long-term ritual advantages than others. Likewise, some nations have better short-term advantages, recruitment, or leaders that they should attempt to use to achieve advantage.

You mention Pythium. Instead of focusing on what they have not (Conjuration 50%), focus on what they have: Alteration 20% and Enchantment 20%, both of which can be valuable in the long run even if they are not suited for building the entire game strategy around, more astral gems than you can shake a stick at, access to cheap elemental research wizards from the Castle Arcanum that can complement the standard Theurgs very well and are not vulnerable to mind duels, and a starting leader, Peter Magus the FFAAEE Warrior Mage, who comes fully equipped with decent beginning items and neatly plugs the initial Fire/Earth lack of Pythium. (Strip and give the items to a decent SC pretender if that is your cup of tea, Peter Magus can always be used as a very versatile forger) Even better the Castle Arcanum should have decent recruitment of tough heavy cavalry as well.

Now, if you want to think of something more scary than Conjuration 50 in the long run... Think of the Jotun owned province of the Triple Peaks... Positively scary.

[Soapyfrog]

Peter Ebbesen said:
Set the AIs to impossible as the map is intended for, then.

I set them to medium as some of the newer players had concerns about competing vs AI opponents

If that gives Ermor a big advantage we'll just have to GANG UP HIM!! GET HIM GUYS!!! *sounds of repeated boots-to-the-head, followed by groaning*

[deccan]

A favor if possible: I'd like to ask that a note be posted here whenever a new turn is up, because starting up Dom2 just to connect to see if there's a new turn is a real drag for me. Thanks.

[Soapyfrog]

Ok. We are on Turn 2.

[archaeolept]

deccan - its far easier to create a desktop shortcut specifically to the game. then its just a quick click/doubleclick to check the status.

[Soapyfrog]

It's true: I won't remember to updated this thread every time we play a turn.

[daesthai]

How do I make a shortcut point specifically to the game?