Halt Heretic - Opinions

[Saulot]

No offense, but at what point do you look at someone's request and think 'edacious and insatiable'?

[Tuidjy]

I always thought that edacious was about food, and insatiable about sex. :-)
Hell, my gut feeling is that MA Ulm is still weak, I would like them to really
be a viable nation. Until I play a MA game that they're in, I will not be able
to speak from experience. Every halfway decent player can trounce the AI, even
on impossible.

The new guardians have covered one of Ulm's vulnerabilities. I feel they have a
few more left but what the Hell, I am shutting up until I try them, or at least
fight them in MP.

[B0rsuk]

Ulm may not be viable for you or Zeldor, but perfectly fine for people who like unusual nations, experimentation, and some challenge.

[Sir_Dr_D]

These changes make Ulm a much more interesting nation at any rate.

I don't think anyone has comment on the changes to the black plate. No one, will poitn and laugh anymore at how clumsy the black plate soldiers look as they try to make it from one side of the battlefield to the other without collapsing from exhastion. The black plate is now something to be feared.


Jotunheim in particular will really fear those black halbreds, and the black halbreds will be able stop short pythium Angels, and other sacred SCs. They will be quite a force.

Halt scared sounds cool, but I don't think it will be that effective.

Its nice to give ulm a choice of mages. Only the one kind mind ulm kind of boring.

[Edi]

Actually, there are a couple of things where I agree with Tuidjy, namely about the medium infantry. MA Ulm currently has essentially 10 varieties of same heavy infantry and only one or two of them are ever used (3 or 4, if you count black plate and chain mail of same type as separate ones).

A couple of varieties of plate cuirass medium infantry with short swords/axe/hammer/hatchet/morning star and kite shield or normal shield and half helmet or iron cap for helmet and perhaps mapmove 2 wouldn't be bad. Of the weapons, hatchet and short sword would be the most appropriate, axe is the most problematic due to both attack and defense penalty.

That would give MA Ulm some flexibility, though there is the danger of the medium infantry being used as the main troops due to greater movement capacity. On the other hand, if the medium infantry were to use some two-handed weapon like battle axe, halberd, bardiche, claymore or greatsword, they would not be such an obvious choice all around as the lack of shield and lower overall protection would really start to hurt them against archers and especially crossbowmen. Sure, they'd hit hard, but their survivability would go down a lot and their defense woul still stay in the average range instead of shooting up to 14-16 range.

The heavy infantry still suffer from relatively low defense values and for the black plate infantry, knights and guardians, the helmet could be changed to black steel helmet to complement the full plate of Ulm. That would increase def by 1 point, which is not an unreasonable boost at all, they'll still get hit all the time.

Another thing I'd really like to see is the master smiths get their random chance upped to 15% or 20%, because they still won't get them too often. Maybe jack up the price by 10 to count for that.

[Dedas]

I'm quite satisfied with the infantry as it is. Everyone have their niches more or less depending on what nation you are currently fighting.

[Edi]

Probably. My perspective is NOT from multiplayer, so I defer to the judgment of more experienced people in that regard. The black steel helmets would be thematically cool, though.

[Dedas]

I cannot agree with you more. Black steel helmets should be there.

[B0rsuk]

Black steel Helmets sound like a no-brainer. Ulm is all about black steel, right ? Why do they use those crappy regular -1 def full helmets ?

[Sir_Dr_D]

I agree with these latest statements.

Though I now beleive that black plate infantry is now quite a good unit, ulm still should have medium infantry with map move 2.