The Council of Wyrms

[PashaDawg]

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Dear Alneyan:

Do not forget that the Council is a separate and independent branch of government, and that you can be impeached by a vote of the Council. You serve as a matter of our legislative grace.

Thusly, you shall cease directing threatening remarks at my person or reputation.

However, in the interests of comity between our two independent branches of government, I shall agree to address you with all the pomp, respect and flourish that you rightly deserve!

Pasha,
Divine Pretender and Council Wyrm for the Great Dominion of Ulm

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[djo]

The Right Honorable Wyrm from Ulm is surely exaggerating when he uses the words "legislative" and "grace" in immediate succession?

[PashaDawg]

No exaggeration at all. While I love the phrase "legislative grace," I was not creative in my use of it. Google the phrase, and you will see that it is a term in American and probably British law (for example, tax deductions are matters of "legislative grace" and can be abolished by the legislature, opposed to the right to free expression which is protected by the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.)

Nonetheless, I can't help but smile whenever I say it... "legislative grace"... I think everyone would start their day a little happier if they said it as a short mantra three times after drinking their first cup of morning coffee.

[Alneyan]

How dare you even think of impeaching me! I hold that position to life, and you cannot disturb the due process of law: the judiciary is not tied up to the executive and legastive powers of Council.

Just in case though, I will pass a ruling stating that "Council cannot interfere in any way whatsoever with the actions of the Chief Justice, and may not infringe on the prerogatives of the Chief Justice, etcetera...". The results of the vote are 6 to 3: voting is a lot easier when you are the only one involved.

[djo]

PashaDawg said:
While I love the phrase "legislative grace," I was not creative in my use of it. Google the phrase, and you will see that it is a term in American and probably British law

I stand enlightened! I love learning new jargon and idioms...

[PashaDawg]

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Dear Alneyan:

There must be some checks and balances. If you abuse your exalted position, then you shall be removed therefrom forthwith! Unilateral rulings will get you nowhere.

Comity, Alneyan... Comity!

Lord Pasha,
Divine Pretender and Council Wyrm of the Great Dominion of Ulm

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[Alneyan]

What is the point of exalted positions, if you cannot abuse your power? Nobody would want them otherwise!

There are already some checks and balances, and far too many of them: Council had to agree to my being Chief Justice, and was aware of the full extent of powers granted to the office. Council may not override any of the rulings of the Court, for we rely on the very Covenant that gave Council its powers and legitimity.

Therefore, dismissing any duly nominated member of the Court without the assent of said Court is a direct violation of our prerogatives, and was ruled to be quite uncovenantionally in Pasha v. World, Maine v. France, Dawg v. State, and other similar cases.

Still, if you insist on check and balances, I might be able to give you a hand: I will send you the check you deserve as part of your dismissal clause, and I will throw a few balances in your general direction. I live to serve.

[PashaDawg]

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Dear Chief Justice Alneyan (May He Serve Wisely!):

Alneyan said:
What is the point of exalted positions, if you cannot abuse your power? Nobody would want them otherwise!

If I remember correctly, wasn't that Louis XVI's philosophy?

Concerning the case law that you cite, Pasha v. World, Maine v. France, Dawg v. State, my reading of those cases is that the Court ruled in favor of the Plaintiff (i.e., Pasha, Maine and Dawg) in all of them. Therefore, I am not quite certain that they are on point or support your argument.

Surely, the Court would agree that judicial restraint is the primary basis for allowing the judiciary to serve for life, but that if any particular judge disregards the necessity of such restraint, then he or she can be removed for abuse of office.

Lord Pasha,
Divine Pretender and Council Wyrm for the Magnificent Dominion of Ulm

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[Wish]

as much as you guys ar enjoying this impromptu play you have presented for ll of us wyrms, what is the point on arguing about the chief justice when a vote was never taken for appointment to the possition?

your show is only confusing the matter at hand which is and will remain the forming of the 17 nations, until the 17 nations are all formed.

and I am definately voting against the motion to make the chief justices matters untouchable

Nimhe Sidhe
Exalted Wyrm of the Empire of Man

[Truper]

It might be most amusing to join this game with a pretender designed specifically to *kill* Wyrms