MP Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Game Over. Noobs Triumph! - Page 56

Lingchih · #**551** July 17th, 2009, 07:54 PM

Things look grim for Mysterioso. Black servants are now trying to sneak his casket out of the capitol, because no one has had time to re-awaken him yet.

Good double team Pyth, C'tis. I might have been able to stop it if I had been expecting it that early, but alas, I was not. In retrospect, I should have just taken my circle, not expanded any more, and just researched and re-animated.

Lavaere · #**552** July 17th, 2009, 09:00 PM

woohoo it took a couple of days but I have internet again. so hows the game going
any bloody battles lately

Septimius Severus · #**553** July 17th, 2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by namad

why has laevere been removed from the game? who is replacing him?

Rdonj, is correct regarding lavaere. The most important reason though was lack of participation/coordination/communication on the noob team forum. Even if you have only 2 provinces you are expected to participate/coordinate/communicate with the team as a whole. This is clearly stated in the opening post. I am glad that lavaere participated a 3rd time and I thank him for that, but I need the full participation of everyone involved.

Septimius Severus · #**554** July 17th, 2009, 09:59 PM

Noob team substitution:

Stretch will be coming in for Ulm (Joelz), effective turn 16 temporarily until he returns.

TwoBits · #**555** July 17th, 2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lingchih

Good double team Pyth, C'tis. I might have been able to stop it if I had been expecting it that early, but alas, I was not. In retrospect, I should have just taken my circle, not expanded any more, and just researched and re-animated.

Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet, so I'm not ready to claim victory just now. But I will say, being sandwiched between Pythium (big Holy and Astral) and C'tis (big Holy and Death) is about the unluckiest match-up imaginable for Ermor. Just the luck of the draw, I guess

You can take some consolation in that I just lost two Arch Theurgs to Ashdod is [i]very[i] noobish fashion

melnorjr · #**556** July 17th, 2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lingchih

Good double team Pyth, C'tis. I might have been able to stop it if I had been expecting it that early, but alas, I was not.

Sorry, that would be my fault.

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Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet, so I'm not ready to claim victory just now. But I will say, being sandwiched between Pythium (big Holy and Astral) and C'tis (big Holy and Death) is about the unluckiest match-up imaginable for Ermor. Just the luck of the draw, I guess

Not quite the luck of the draw. ermor was predictably going to be placed on one of the poles, and with pythium/c'tis at the top, and arco/jotun at the bottom, neither pole would have been fun.

TheDemon · #**557** July 17th, 2009, 10:36 PM

I guess it doesn't hurt to mention that we seriously considered swapping our north-south placements because they might have been somewhat predictable. I think I made the argument that just because the strongest placement was the most obvious doesn't mean we should change it, so you can blame this one squarely on me. Had we followed atul's plan we may have done better.

edit: I'm not really seeing how Arco/Jotun would be a great matchup against Ermor. Were it me I would have gone with Caelum/Abysia. But I am sure you had your reasons.

namad · #**558** July 17th, 2009, 11:25 PM

jotunheim and arco are actually the worst nations on your entire team for facing ermor. It is undebatable arco is the worst and jotunheim is at least not good even if it's not strictly the worst....

melnorjr · #**559** July 18th, 2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by namad

jotunheim and arco are actually the worst nations on your entire team for facing ermor. It is undebatable arco is the worst and jotunheim is at least not good even if it's not strictly the worst....

Really? There seem some obvious counters. too obvious maybe?

TheDemon · #**560** July 18th, 2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by melnorjr

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Originally Posted by namad

jotunheim and arco are actually the worst nations on your entire team for facing ermor. It is undebatable arco is the worst and jotunheim is at least not good even if it's not strictly the worst....

Really? There seem some obvious counters. too obvious maybe?

I think namad exaggerates a bit, but his general point is correct. Elephants are terrible against high-def, high-morale undead, and can't reliably trample ethereal units, and Ermor's typical research path takes him straight to some of the good elephant counters. Jotun's giants have poor attack and are vulnerable to swarming, and have no magic weapons. Neither nation has H3 priests or magic weapons of any sort.

I of course can't say how it would have turned out, but the matchup is nowhere near as difficult as the one up north.