A question on Atlantis - Page 5

Thufir · #41 September 6th, 2004, 03:14 PM

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Yossar said:
Not much should be able to beat her 1 on 1 underwater. That's why she's queen of the water. You just need a collection of units/mages that can do enough damage in one round to kill her or kill her with a single spell.

I believe there's an outstanding bug (even w/ 2.13) where she does not have her full HPs in regen, while underwater.

Yossar · #42 September 7th, 2004, 04:54 AM

What kind of bug do you mean? I just tested it with one and she regenerates 50 hps per round out of 55 hps.

Vynd · #43 September 7th, 2004, 10:59 AM

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Thufir said:

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Yossar said:
Not much should be able to beat her 1 on 1 underwater. That's why she's queen of the water. You just need a collection of units/mages that can do enough damage in one round to kill her or kill her with a single spell.

I believe there's an outstanding bug (even w/ 2.13) where she does not have her full HPs in regen, while underwater.

I thought that she was supposed to regen 90% of her hit points underwater, not all of them.

Cainehill · #44 September 7th, 2004, 11:27 AM

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Boron said:
So you were right (again) graeme but at least it was a good learning experience for me (again)

Why didn't you mention yourself the water penalty though ?

See, this is why some of us don't have much respect for your lectures on how to improve Dominions. You post and post and post, giving us hard numbers (990 out of a 1000, was it?), while you still consider yourself enough of a newbie to enter newbie games.

Try getting some more experience with the game before 'enlightening' us all, hmm?

The Panther · #45 September 7th, 2004, 05:41 PM

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Vynd said:

I thought that she was supposed to regen 90% of her hit points underwater, not all of them.

It is not a percent. It is a fixed amount. And only one of the queens regenerates 50 HP per turn. The lesser aquatic queen regenerates 39 while the amphibious queen regenerates 28. Being underwater or not makes no difference.

The description in the troop does say:
"Unless she is completely killed during one combat round, she will heal all wounds."
This is bogus, of course. But don't always believe those descriptions. You have to click on the ability of the troop to see reality.

atul · #46 September 7th, 2004, 05:50 PM

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The Panther said:
But don't always believe those descriptions. You have to click on the ability of the troop to see reality.

...and here you are assuming that all of the unit's abilities are really displayed as icons.

I'd say I have a feel that the Queens' full reg ability is separate from the regeneration they also have. My experience with the ladies is limited, though (and of patch 2.08 fame), so I may be wrong.

Alneyan · #47 September 8th, 2004, 10:34 AM

I ran a test with the 2.12 patch, and the ability did not work for the Queen of the Lake. She was down to 3 hitpoints, and only went back to 31 hitpoints on the next round (her Regeneration was of 28 hitpoints) instead of her full 55 hitpoints.

I see no changes that could apply to the Queen of the Lake with the 2.13 patch, so I guess the results would be the same. But be my guest to test it out with the new patch and/or the other Queens.

Boron · #48 September 8th, 2004, 01:55 PM

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Alneyan said:
I ran a test with the 2.12 patch, and the ability did not work for the Queen of the Lake. She was down to 3 hitpoints, and only went back to 31 hitpoints on the next round (her Regeneration was of 28 hitpoints) instead of her full 55 hitpoints.

I see no changes that could apply to the Queen of the Lake with the 2.13 patch, so I guess the results would be the same. But be my guest to test it out with the new patch and/or the other Queens.

That should be the one who is amphibian not aquatic .
So it is intended that she has weaker regeneration because she is amphibian

I think it is even mentioned somewhere in her description .

Alneyan · #49 September 8th, 2004, 03:03 PM

"Unless she is completely killed during one combat round, she will heal all her wounds". This is part of the description for Limne, or the two other Queens for this matter. It should be a separate ability from their Regeneration (that is weaker for the Queen of the Lake and the Queen of the Sea, and not yet equal to 100% for the Queen of the Deep).

Since this ability does not work for the Queen of the Lake, I would say it is quite likely the same goes true for the Queen of the Sea. Still, I should check it out one of these days. Testing this ability for the Queen of the Deep would probably be too difficult given her very high natural regeneration.

Yossar · #50 September 8th, 2004, 03:29 PM

Queen of the Deep definitely only regenerates the 50 hps that it says and not her 55 total. Tested that the other day and one round she only made it back to 53.

If the description is wrong, does that mean the Queen of the Lake still gets regeneration on land?