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Old April 26th, 2021, 02:50 PM

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Default Re: M4 Carbine Range question

There is NO difference between the M4 or M4A1 and the item in slot 9. An M4 Carbine or Rifle is still shooting the same distance as far as the US Army wants and the adding of optics means that 300 to 500-meter long-range shot might get a better chance of hitting, but the 275 and below will be hits.

I really think whoever did up the US Army OOB confused the M4 Carbine with things like the CAR-15 which is a short range CQB carbine.

The M4s issued without optics to soldiers is the same one that issued with optics, the weapon didn't change, just one is using iron sights and the other has an ACOG or M68 Red Dot CQB sight. That's it. Which has been my whole point all along.

We have three weapons that are the same thing with three different ranges. The M4 the game claims the mortar teams have should be the same weapon that the infantry units have. Again I am talking from real-world experience and point of fact even the Guard and Reserve units have now converted over to the M4 and M4AL, so really the M16 series is going away as foreign aid.
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I really think whoever did up the US Army OOB confused the M4 Carbine with things like the CAR-15 which is a short range CQB carbine.
Which is exactly what I pointed out in an earlier post.

The point is IN THE GAME most units already use the weapon you think they should use and these other short ranged ones were ( I suspect ) thought to be as you say the like the CAR-15 so what we could do is give weapon 9 to everyone using 6 and 10 and everything would be as you think it should be ?
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Old April 26th, 2021, 03:03 PM

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Default Re: M4 Carbine Range question

The Rangers having the shorter ranged weapons makes sense, so perhaps rename one of them to CAR-15?

Having units use slot 9 weapon would fit better in MHO, with exception of the Ranger units.
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Old April 26th, 2021, 03:08 PM
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The Rangers having the shorter ranged weapons makes sense, so perhaps rename one of them to CAR-15?

Having units use slot 9 weapon would fit better in MHO, with exception of the Ranger units.

Something like that. It is simpler to rename things or rename and alter data in some cases than change unit weapon assignments sometimes it's simpler to change weapons assignments. In this case, I went with the rename and/or alter data option though perhaps for those three Ranger units and their time period M4 Commando might be better ?
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Default Re: M4 Carbine Range question

One thing, the listed M4 and the M4A1, the A1 is the full auto version, for some reason this was thought to be a good idea, so shouldn't the accuracy of that be lowered since a weapon like a rifle or a carbine firing on full auto is not going to hit things very well.
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Default Re: M4 Carbine Range question

Don't be too hasty. I made the M4 range 8 and what was the M4A1 for a whole three units is now an M4 Commando range 6

The M4 in the US OOB weapon 10 is the non optic version and US army weapon 9 is now the M16A2/M4 ACOG
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