How should word "C'tis" be pronounced? - Page 4

Foodstamp · #1 April 13th, 2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Burnsaber

I've been wondering about Tir na n'Og. That's one damn beast of a word.

Tirnoog?

Tirnaug?

Dominions isn't the first game I have played with that word. Another game I have played since 2001 also references it. I am pretty set in my ways on how I pronounce it as Tir-Na- Nog.

I also pronounce Cuchulainn as "Coo-cha-lane" but the correct pronunciation is "Coo-Hoo-Lan (lane?)".

What happens is I see a word, create a pronunciation for it and then I find out the real pronunciation later on, but it is too late as I am set in my ways.

For example, I used to pronounce Stipend like "Stip-end" when in reality it is "Stipe-end". Safe to say I was the source of much amusement for a know-it-all when I found out I was pronouncing it wrong.

chrispedersen · #2 April 13th, 2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Foodstamp

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Originally Posted by Burnsaber

I've been wondering about Tir na n'Og. That's one damn beast of a word.

Tirnoog?

Tirnaug?

Dominions isn't the first game I have played with that word. Another game I have played since 2001 also references it. I am pretty set in my ways on how I pronounce it as Tir-Na- Nog.

I also pronounce Cuchulainn as "Coo-cha-lane" but the correct pronunciation is "Coo-Hoo-Lan (lane?)".

What happens is I see a word, create a pronunciation for it and then I find out the real pronunciation later on, but it is too late as I am set in my ways.

For example, I used to pronounce Stipend like "Stip-end" when in reality it is "Stipe-end". Safe to say I was the source of much amusement for a know-it-all when I found out I was pronouncing it wrong.

The difference between those that encounter a word by reading - and other's verbal usage...

JimMorrison · #3 April 13th, 2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Foodstamp

For example, I used to pronounce Stipend like "Stip-end" when in reality it is "Stipe-end". Safe to say I was the source of much amusement for a know-it-all when I found out I was pronouncing it wrong.

You made me look this up, because I was actually curious if perhaps both pronunciations were considered valid.

I found something surprising.

Stiped comes from the Latin 'Stipendium'. Why is this so odd? Because Latin has no "ih" sound for I, yet we use it all the time in words derived from Latin - except in this case, we kept the original pronunciation.....

Gregstrom · #4 April 14th, 2009, 08:19 AM

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Stiped comes from the Latin 'Stipendium'. Why is this so odd? Because Latin has no "ih" sound for I, yet we use it all the time in words derived from Latin - except in this case, we kept the original pronunciation.....

Some of this may be related to use of church Latin, which is not pronounced in the same way as classical Latin for some reason. Church Latin, for instance, pronounces c as a 'ch' sound most of the time, where classical Latin uses a hard 'k' sound.

PS: I thought R'lyeh was generally pronounced 'AAAAARGH!gibber*splatter*crunch*gristle (pause) belch'

vfb · #5 April 13th, 2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lch

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Originally Posted by Burnsaber

I've been wondering about Tir na n'Og. That's one damn beast of a word.

I pronounce it Tirnanoog. An irish person may know exactly. Or Wikipedia.

The only one that I'm unsure about if I pronounce it correctly is R'lyeh.

I believe the correct pronunciation of R'lyeh is "oh-REE-lee". At least, that's what I keep hearing everyone around me saying. Damn cultists! Leave me alone.

lch · #6 April 13th, 2009, 11:05 AM

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I believe the correct pronunciation of R'lyeh is "oh-REE-lee". At least, that's what I keep hearing everyone around me saying. Damn cultists! Leave me alone.

I think I gave thanks for this for entirely different reasons than llama did.

Gokufan1988 · #7 April 13th, 2009, 06:17 PM

I pronounce Tir na n'Og as tear nah noag (no emphasis on the 'a') and R'Lyeh as ruh lie eh. I'm pretty confident about R'Lyeh but less so about tir.

Also bean sidhe I just pronounce banshee

lch · #8 April 14th, 2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gokufan1988

Also bean sidhe I just pronounce banshee

Nice. I didn't notice this before. Quite probably they're really related.

Jarkko · #9 April 14th, 2009, 03:32 AM

In Finnish C-words are K-words for whatever reason. Cimmeria is Kimmeria, Cyprus is Kypros.

Thus it is no wonder that I, and the people I play with, have always said "C'tis" as "Ktis". Dunno if it is wrong or right, but "Stis" just sounds not right in my ears

Amorphous · #10 April 14th, 2009, 08:53 AM

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Also bean sidhe I just pronounce banshee

Nice. I didn't notice this before. Quite probably they're really related.

They are the same.
"Bean Sidhe" is modern Irish spelling of "banshee". You can also see it spelled "banshie", "bean si" or "ben sidhe"; people of Scottish persuasion sometimes write it as "ban-sìth", "bean-sìth" or"ban-shìth". I believe that there are slightly different spellings of it from east Munster and Isle of Man, but I do not remember those exactly and I am away from my books at the moment.

Although I have probably already added far more information than you really wanted, I can add that the terms mean "fairy woman" or "woman of the fairy mound".

As for Latin pronunciation, I have found that discussing that is a sure-fire way of getting shouted at by fanatics that all present slightly - or very - different versions of the only true pronunciation. As far as I know, though, Latin was around for quite a long time and pronunciation did differ between localities and over time. And probably between social groups, as well.