The Middle Way X - Faerun EA [Abandoned]

[Sir_Dr_D]

I played with the concpetual balance mod and liked it.

I was playing middle age Man and was placed beside double blessed Vanheim. It was fairly even and wasa lot of fun to play. In the regular game I netither want to be Vanheim, or play against them. They are too empowered and it is no fun. With the balance mod I do.

ANother thing I liked was the very subtle changes to some of the troops. When I look at the regular game, and see the prices of some of the troops, I think that there is no way I would purchase some of those.In the balance mod (I am thinking things like spearmen and militia here) I would. I wouldn't completely get the spearmen instead of the other troops, making the other ones obsoltute. Instead it is a trade off as to which one you want to get, and there is uses for both of them. It increases the variety of troops you create, and that makes it more fun.

There is also speels that weren't used before, that now have their cost reduced, increasing the variety of spells that are usable. And magic items that wern't used before, or used too much, have been altered, increasing the variety of items to build.

Yes some of the changes in the mod might have unbalanced it more. Other ones balanced it. Other changes might not have made much difference, but it is still a change from the regular game, which is nice. All the arguments saying that the mod is to new, and isn't balanced enough apply to the game as well. The unmodded version of the game has its issues and balance problems. It comes down to who you think can balance it better, the developer of the conceptual balance mod, or the developers of the game. And I say that the Concpetual balance mod is at least equivalent if not better, and will only get better with time. The change alone is nice.

I would like to use the balance mod, because the other game I am in is not using it. And I like the variety. It comes down to what the host of this game wants. If you want to use the conceptual balance mod, say so, and those that want to use it can play this game, and those that don't can find another game. I hope you say you do want to use it, becuase no other games that are currently running use it, adn I did find it fun.

(And fort the argument that says it was buggy, I did not run into any bug issues in the COncepts of Creation games, and we were using an older version of the mod. The new one would have lots of those issues removed.)

[Foodstamp]

I think this picture just about sums of what is going on in this thread.

[Evilhomer]

The number one reason I want to use the cb is that it balances the heims. If you have any experience with EA you will realise how good Helheim and to a bit lesser extent the two other heims are.

Already this game has niefelheim and helheim signed up, I wouldn't care about that if the cb was used, but those nations have me seriously worried about running this game in vanilla. You really should pay no attention to Frank, his post clearly showes he has no experience about CB (seriously blood fountain and master lich as bless chassis?)

[Foodstamp]

I would like to give Kailasa a whirl if any spots are still available.

[Ironhawk]

FrankTrollman said:
From a conceptual standpoint, the CB series seems to come from a standpoint of simply looking at all the things that are most often used in his experience and then nerf them all. And then take all the things that are rarely used and give them boosts. Unfortunately, this is completely retarded and unsalvageable way to go about anything because there's the whole notion of "selective utility" which the designer of CB seems to just plain not understand at all.

Do you even know who made CB? It was Quantum Mechani - probably one of the most experienced dominion players there is. If his experience says to nerf one thing and boost another he is likely right. I will not argue particular fine points of the CB mod or say that it has reached the refined state of dom2 CB... but I think you are foolish to disregard it in the way that you have.

[KissBlade]

Foodstamp said:
I think this picture just about sums of what is going on in this thread.

So you propose the idea that debating on the internet has no merit or point whatsoever?

[Teraswaerto]

Darrel said:
If you want to use the conceptual balance mod, say so, and those that want to use it can play this game, and those that don't can find another game.

Although I voted no CB, I dont much care either way. Haven't played with it, my impression just was that it's still rather unfinished.

[KissBlade]

Teraswaerto said:

Although I voted no CB, I dont much care either way. Haven't played with it, my impression just was that it's still rather unfinished.

It is very much unfinished. But if you think vanilla is finished in that sense, then you are sooooooooooooooo off.

[johnarryn]

Alright, the use of the word "retarded" is juvenile enough. Now we're making fun of people with disabilities and how they look all funny and stuff. Classy.

[FrankTrollman]

If there's no CB, I'll play early Ermor.

-Frank