i'm a political failure!!! - Page 4

Master Belisarius · #31 March 29th, 2001, 03:51 AM

Dynarr: I agree 100% with your observations.

Really I would not like to be in the Aaron shoes!!!
Some time ago, I can remember that the people said that was so easy, to sign a Trade alliance with an AI, and then, a few turns later, send a large fleet into the AI territory to destroy their planets...

Seems to be that's very hard try to find a balance, and keep happy everybody!

Beck · #32 March 29th, 2001, 05:27 AM

I agree, Master Belisarius. However there must be some middle ground. The signing of a simple trade agreement does not have to allow free access to each other's territory, particularly free access by ships containing weapons. Our planet is complex maze of trade agreements that does not allow for such access. Frequently I do not sign any such agreements simply because I don't want them poking around all my systems. Perhaps there could different levels of trade and trade/research agreements that allow for varying degrees of access. At the low end there would be no access, but trade and or research would be minimal. Access to systems adjacent to each other only would increase the level of trade/research and finally full access would garner the best possible level of trade and research.

jc173 · #33 March 29th, 2001, 03:12 PM

Maybe the AI should be able to distinguish between warships and unarmed ships? Then perhaps only partnership/military alliance treaties would allow warships into other empire's territory without penalty?

jc173 · #34 March 29th, 2001, 03:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Nitram Draw:
I also hate the fact that once you sign a trade treaty the AI comes in and colonizes all the planets in my system that I can't. Then 50 turns later the decide to attack me and have more bases in my systems than I do! What a pain!

That is quickly becoming one of my biggest pet peeves. Borders are completely worthless because the AI refuses to respect them at all. But it damns you all to hell if you violate the AI's borders.

Krakenup · #35 March 29th, 2001, 04:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Marty Ward:
I also hate the fact that once you sign a trade treaty the AI comes in and colonizes all the planets in my system that I can't. Then 50 turns later the decide to attack me and have more bases in my systems than I do! What a pain!

This is where the Golden Rule comes in: "Do unto others before they do unto you."

Suicide Junkie · #36 March 29th, 2001, 05:24 PM

How about making those three levels of access (none / border sys / all) linked to the maximum trade percent you get.
Ie. maximum 5% trade for no access,
maximum 10% trade for border systems
full 20% trade for total access.

Arralen · #37 March 29th, 2001, 05:34 PM

Easiest solution - only Military Alliance or Partnership allow moving ships in another races space.

On the other hand - the AI shouldn't attack anyone it doesn't have a treaty with on sight .. as this hinders the AI players amongst themselves more than the human player, who would protect his ships/colonies anyway.

And for the AI claiming all neighbouring systems automatically - why doesn't this show up when you open the AIs turn and take a peek at the border map, which shows only the colonized systems as claimed ?

A.

Puke · #38 March 29th, 2001, 06:55 PM

I also wish there were some things that could be locked down. for instance, partners and military alies might be allowed to resupply at an outlaying colony, but it would be nice to put an 'off limits' marker on a homeworld or a jump point to a core system. England might park ships in US ports, but they dont usually steam fleets up the Potomac.

Nitram Draw · #39 March 30th, 2001, 02:29 AM

Maybe a treaty could be modded that was like a non-intercourse with minimal trade. That way you could have some trade and still protect your systems.
I also hate the fact that once you sign a trade treaty the AI comes in and colonizes all the planets in my system that I can't. Then 50 turns later the decide to attack me and have more bases in my systems than I do! What a pain!