Looking for help with SC pretenders

[wolfkinsov]

My question and or problem I am having with SC is many MP games now are using Very Difficult Research. Which means if your counting on early expansion from and SC it just does not seem to work for me. Oh and most games are indy sth 7 or better.

Even Dragons, Cyclops, Wynm all seem to die or take an affliction if used with just Alt 1 research, if I wait for any more research my opponents already have a lot of places under there control. So what are they doing different from me is the questions.

[alexti]

wolfkinsov said:
My question and or problem I am having with SC is many MP games now are using Very Difficult Research. Which means if your counting on early expansion from and SC it just does not seem to work for me. Oh and most games are indy sth 7 or better.

Even Dragons, Cyclops, Wynm all seem to die or take an affliction if used with just Alt 1 research, if I wait for any more research my opponents already have a lot of places under there control. So what are they doing different from me is the questions.

Expand with regular troops? I usually use 1 national army, starting from turn 3 or 4, 3-4 turns later I can field second national army, and pretender joins the expansion team as soon as something useful is researched (for example, Alteration-3).

[Huzurdaddi]

I personally find that high indep+Very Difficult research == sacred troops with a bless.

However I am currently playing a game in which Ulm did *very* well smashing indeps of strength 9 with his blackplate+legions of steel.

In the end he got hurt by a blood nation, however the game is not decided yet.

[En Forcer]

Can you tell me how your Ulm got hurt by a blood nation? I might be in that position soon in an MP game I am currently in...

[archaeolept]

devils consider black plate infantry a type of roasted peanut.

[Arryn]

archaeolept said:
devils consider black plate infantry a type of roasted peanut.

LOL

[Boron]

Cainehill said:
Casted enough big spells to drive her unconscious.

That said - it really seems that I've watched VQs and perhaps some other beings continue doing things when their fatigue is over 100. Possibly a bug.

Hm thats really weird then . Even though your opponent made scripting errors the vq still won

Huzurdaddi said:
I personally find that high indep+Very Difficult research == sacred troops with a bless.

However I am currently playing a game in which Ulm did *very* well smashing indeps of strength 9 with his blackplate+legions of steel.

In the end he got hurt by a blood nation, however the game is not decided yet.

Yeah very difficult research / low magic site frequency is done trying making magic a bit less important but it fails because it strenghtens as you said the nations with blessed troops / good troops and blood nations .

So nations like e.g. pythium / arco get weaker but especially the blood nations really benefit . Especially Abysia/Vanheim should there be really excellent nations . They have good troops , Blessable troops and blood hunt ability . Vanheim has a bit better troops but less good bloodhunting .