OT: The Passion of the Christ movie

[dogscoff]

If God wants to destroy us, that's his perogative. He made us after all. And it won't be because he's evil. It will be because he's righteous, we are most definitely not.

Hmm. Righteous or not, anyone tries to destroy me is gonna get a kick in the nuts.

[EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro]

Even though it's a non Muslim movie, the government of Iran wants the movie shown in Tehran because of it's perceived "anti Jewish" message. Man is that wrong on so many levels. Not only are they not understanding the basic premise of Christianity, but are using an event out of antiquity to condem another religious group.
I vaguely remeber a movie from the 70's called Muhammed: Messenger of God. The Muslims freaked because they thought it pictured Muhammed (a big no-no) but it was a movie from his point of view (and camera too). There were riots, movie theaters were burned with doors locked and people inside, Fatwah's issued. And like a big Three's Company episode; all a big misunderstanding! No real point to this second part except; Man, religion is kooky.

I pray to the Red Star of the Solar Empire.
Always trust your car to the men with the Red Star

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Grauzone:
i like only one of them (the second) as life philosophy, but old testament is more exciting as story.

Looks good on paper. On a historical scoreboard however the first one has a better record.

[Fyron]

The funny thing about many religions is that at their core, they preach peace, love and nonviolence, yet they still lead to death, suffering, and violence on a mass scale... Well, it really isn't funny, more ironic...

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by aiken:
[And I wonder how anybody can judge the film/picture/book without seing/reading it [/QB]

Umm, isn't the word your'e looking for is The Bible? I can't believe I read all of these Posts and hardly anyone mentioned that word. If you're looking for the "book" that was used for The Passion Of The Christ, it's called The New Testament. Preferably out of the King James Version, but I think the Catholics may have another slightly different Version they use, and that's what Mel Gibson may have used for reference for his movie. I thought it was a great movie. Was I "moved"? Not to the extent I would have gone to a police station and confessed to any possible crimes I may have committed. But I think it's probably the most realistic and historical movie about the crucifixion ever done.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
[ [/qb]

I can recall no instance of 'erase the unbelievers' without human sacrifice being involved. Nor were sinners burnt, that I recall. And the death penalty was only mandatory for adultry and first degree murder.

][/quote]

Not true. If you read the Old Testament, or sit in church for about 10 years like I did when I was in my teens, then you find God wasn't as forgiving back then as he is now. Not only were adulterers and murderers killed (usually by stoning), he didn't like people who committed beastiality and witches. They were to be killed also. I'm pretty sure he didn't like homosexuals also, but can't remember now if they were to be killed also (although I'm pretty they were). There's probably more examples in the Bible of types of people God really didn't like, but I can't recall anymore than what I've already typed.

[freduk]

In the old testament (which is the exact same Version as muslims have in their koran) it is indeed written that homo's etc should be stoned, and that it is okey to slap your wife with a stick or stone her if she misbehaves.

I know this because there are a lot of muslims in my country(10% of the total pop.) Who still live by these old rules (Well not all of them, but almost half) and are causing a lot of controversy in my country, especially since they think of christians (which means non-muslims in their point of view) to be less than a pig.

Action should be taken against them.

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[ May 25, 2004, 11:28: Message edited by: Mephisto ]

[Raging Deadstar]

Ok, I'm extremely against religion in all it's forms (although some have redeeming qualitys like buddhism) But i definitely disagree with that Last comment.

Even though i absoloutly deplore homophobia (a lot of my friends are "gay" for lack of a better word, it has such a stigma) and I absoloutly detest the idea of hitting a partner. But however much i dislike their ideals, beliefs and practices they are human after all, and are therefore allowed to believe in what they wish, Human Rights and all.

One day i think we as a race will evolve round the need to believe in a god/gods to explain things and also provide a social/moral code to live by. Of course this is just My Humble Opinion, hopefully one day, even if there is an Omnipotent energy being behind it all (fyron? ) i hope we can just learn to get along! Idealistic and Naive of me perhaps but until then we havn't got much of chance...

So there's my 2 pennies so to speak (I'm english )

[Azselendor]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I don't know what to say to your post. I honestly pray that no person is being wrongfully held, and or mistreated.

If they are, then hell yes we need a way to litigate their freedom.

Sometimes the idology of better safe than sorry has a human cost that is more often than not over looked.

I wish them all well.

The unfortunate part of this is that suicide rates and prison abuse in these jails - on american soil - are largely ignored and buried away. Some of those people have been thier for years on offenses as minor as speeding or expired tags.

Under current immigration law, homeland security can pull up any offense from 1976 to present (despite the law for this being made in 1996), no matter how minor, and declare it an aggrevated felony. Send thanks to Mcvay family for that.

[Yef]

Originally posted by aiken:
In spite of 2000 years of Christianity, the same people who crucified him still rule our world. He would be in a great sorrow if he known that. [/QB]

And what is that suppossed to mean?

There were two people involved in Mr J cruxificion, the Romans and the Jews, and the Romans are no more, so it obviously means that the Jews rule the world!
Very nice. That's why I'll never see that awful movie. People comes out of the theater with an slightly diferent view of the world.
Brainwashing at its best. (or worst)