MP: Great Forum, game running

[Finalgenesis]

@Vanheim

We had planned to suicide against Pan and Ulm though it seems now we'll have the other small half remain upon Ulm's destruction. After paying you the agreed price we planned to suicide our remaining forces somewhere and move onto Valhalla.

Might I suggest an amendment to our agreement: on Ulm's destruction, we pay you generously in gems as agreed. But instead of parting with half our armory / capital + the few provinces north of it (after which it becomes more or less pointless for us and we'll go kamikaze on something):

a) we'll enter into a game-long no aggression against you (well, unless you call off the NAP yourself...), and on the off chance that the game comes down to you + me, I'll give up by default and hand you the win, the host Earcaraxe can be witness here.

b) You can designate twice in the remainder of this game who we go to war with. e.g. "go to war with machaka." In which case we will, and will not enter NAP or make peace until you call us off. We will send in and keep at least 1/3 of our forces on the initial offensive, or at least half of our forces if no one else is warring on us. Note we need access to the nation we are warring with to send in troops... (We can't actually see Machaka at the moment). We can only war with one designated nation at a time (if you want us to war on someone else while already calling us on Machaka, we will have to be able to make peace with or destroy machaka first)

We might wring a bit more action of out this yet.

[Num]

I do not intend to take you half your territory and see you disappear. I only want half your treasure (money, items and gems) as a gift for having saved your nation (frankly that was not the ultimate goal, of course).
I used to not care about this because I thought you would be already dead, or almost dead, when I would have destroyed (If successfull) Ulm.
You have survived, Congrats. So if you want to, what about going to war against Machaka if you think you can help with your armies ? I could admit to see your forces travel across my provinces and lose some passive defense and income. Maybe you can take advantage of magic carpets (or other items I do not know).
I do not intend to attack you, I expect Abysia would help us (Your other border will be secured) so maybe your forces, money and powers could help destroying the ugly Monster ? Are you fine with this plan ?

[Finalgenesis]

We actually preferred to suicide against our 2 enemies in a blaze of glory then to actually survive @.@ It seems we'll get our revenge AND survive now... what a downer.

But sure, half the gems and items then (if you'd look at our income, you'll realize gold doesn't exist in the wastelands we call home, 1/2 of 0 gold = 0 gold). I'll need some time to re-arm my thugs before I can actually war on machaka, but I'm otherwise willing.

my stock consist of many sets of cheap thug equips (saint shrouds, luck amulets, reinvig boots, blood axes, vine shields here and there, 2x rainbow armor ...etc) and boosters (ring of sorcery, 2 blood booster, skull staff). So... You have a choice of a bunch of random thug equips or my booster set.

[Lihaässä]

First about the diplomacy: I don't want to change a setting when we are this far away with the game. So that's a no from my side. I think Diplomacy has been good in this game and your setting has made diplomacy "equal" since not all are able to communicate through irc, telephone, e-mail, pm's or something else.

@Everyone about Vanheim's propaganda: If you've been reading the statistic charts as carefully as I am, you would have seen that by attacking me from all directions You will boost Vanheims success, and that's where he is aiming.

@Finalgenesis & Arnob - Especially those far away from my lands - Ulm and Jotunheim, you've been attacked with Vanheims thugs and now he assumes that you will join his troops to make him the largest nation in the game. He tries to use you, I'm more than happy to help you with my resources if you still want to fight against him.

@ Nrach - Bandarlog is far from defeated - we are talking about peace with them and I have no quarrel with them. You should turn your face behind you and fight with those you have a longer borderline. My nap proposal is still valid and I'm willing to change my terms so that i only get North Amar and Upper Amar. In excange I will give you quarantee of peace (NAP 3)

@ Earcaraxe - Everyone is seeing you dom push. You are no threath to me nor me to you, we only share one border line accross the sea. Why would you want to fight trough a bottleneck when your dominion is doing the fighting without blood?

@ Num - If you think I'm the easiest opponent to enlarge your nation, please do attack. I'm waiting

[Finalgenesis]

@Machaka:

The price I am to pay for Van's aid in completing our bloodfeud on ulm is to war on you and pay him half my stuff, nothing personal / because you're powerful / ...etc. We're basically not a contender but not quite weak enough to just kamikaze the nation now that Van don't want half my lands.

[earcaraxe]

my proposal has been vetoed then.

My dompush is just small scale one as i want to domkill pangea.

[Num]

Income on turn 50 : Vanheim 2133, Machaka 3249
Gem income : Vanheim 53, Machaka 104
Research : Vanheim 8613, Machaka 14589
Dominion : Vanheim 311, Machaka 663

This is not propaganda. Those are numbers. You are on the way to destroy everyone of us with ease, like you do with Shinuyama.

@ Num - If you think I'm the easiest opponent to enlarge your nation, please do attack. I'm waiting

That says it all, you are right, you shall crush me in little time. I am no match for you.
So if we want to get a chance to resist, we must all ally against you, quickly. We are all agree with that.

I would like to hear Bandar Log about that. Nrach we need you badly to help.

[Num]

@Finalgenesis
Do not consider yourself as a servant of Vanheim. Feel free to do what you want (Well please do not be ungrateful). Althought I would like to see you do whatever you can against Machaka (Like any other player).
I only want a reward in gems (I prefer earth, air, death or nature) and items (rainbow armor, good water items I cannot craft, ring of sorcery if you do not need it). That is all. Then you will be free.

[Finalgenesis]

@Num,

Very good, about 75% of my gem reserve is in D gems while my E,A and N are in or close to single digit range. I'll pass you a big shot of D gems, 2x rainbow armor, sorcery ring and 4 frost brands (or would you prefer a water cloak? Alternatively I can forge up to W4, just let me know what W items you need).

[nrasch]

Originally Posted by Num

I would like to hear Bandar Log about that. Nrach we need you badly to help.

Haa haa! While the tall ones w/ no tails that don't eat bananas talk and talk and talk we take action! Advance monkey hordes, advance!!!