SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks - Page 3

Suicide Junkie · #21 May 27th, 2003, 01:58 AM

Well, you were mistaken about people recognizing sarcasm without a smiley to indicate tone of voice

tbontob · #22 May 27th, 2003, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Mac is a copy of Windows, Windows is a copy of Mac. Each company stole all the good innovations the other had done from each other (and now Linux does the same, while maintaining all that obselete OS junk from the 50-70s .

Make links on the desktop to the floppy and cd drives, and you get the exact same effects. The Recycle bin IS on the windows desktop. It is very hard to get rid of.

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If you want to eject the floppy you can do it from the desktop by putting the floppy into the trash. Easier than fumbling around for that little button on the floppy drive.

Fumbling around? It is a big button, not at all hard to press. With CD drives at least, you can right click on the drive icon and hit "eject", which requires less work than dragging it all the way to the trash can.

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And in the older Versions of OS, maybe even older than OS7 in 1991, you could set it to automatically give the sizes of folders. Twelve years later XP, still cannot automatically give me size of the folders as there isn't an option for it in View/Choose Details.

Actually, win 95/nt and up all have this functionality directly. 3.x had it, but it was not as easy.
Use "detail" view instead of the other views, and you get lots of info. Hover the mouse over a folder, and you get a tool tip showing folder size and such.

Yeh, but it is common knowledge that Windows stole far more than it gave. So dismissing it as stealing from each other will not make it go away.

Sure I can make links and I do. But if Windows were smart, they would steal this too, so we wouldn't have to.

Don't want to get rid of the Recycle Bin. Would just like to have it on the bottom right hand corner like we can with the Mac trashcan.

The 3/8 inch by 1/8 inch button is big?

I would hate to know what your conception of huge is. Again, fumbling around to find that button is a pain.

And about folder sizes. It is great to have the folder sizes listed with the files sizes. Maybe you have a lot of time to hover the mouse over [Edit: the folder to get the folder size], but for me I prefer just having it there right in front of me.

But I noticed you avoided my biggest gripe. The fact that the PC/windows does not automatically eject the floppy on shutdown.

[ May 27, 2003, 03:51: Message edited by: tbontob ]

PvK · #23 May 27th, 2003, 05:11 AM

My greatest annoyance with Windows and floppy disks is that after one removes the floppy disk, Windows tends to grind itself to a halt while it checks to see if the disk is still around, at annoying and often irrelevant times.

My greatest annoyance with Macs and floppy disks (or CDs) is that the machine tends to lock the disk inside itself, with no physical eject button available, requiring working software/hardware/power/delay to get the disk back from the thing.

Linux has it's own annoyances with disks, of requiring the user to "mount" the disk in software.

Once, again, my Atari 8-bit and ST computers win the contest of annoyance, having none of those problems.

PvK

tbontob · #24 May 27th, 2003, 05:22 AM

PvK, I hear you about the Mac locking the floppy.

It bugged me too, until I discovered it only does that when you have loaded something from the floppy. Resaving the open file to the floppy or closing the file, releases the floppy.

But yes, it was irritating at times when you are working on a multitude of files and then having to figure out which file came from the floppy.

tbontob · #25 May 27th, 2003, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by tbontob:
PvK, I hear you about the Mac locking the floppy.

It bugged me too, until I discovered it only does that when you have loaded something from the floppy. Resaving the open file to the floppy or closing the file, releases the floppy.

But yes, it was irritating at times when you are working on a multitude of files and then having to figure out which file came from the floppy.

EDIT: Yeh, and my 1981 Apple II+ had none of these problems either.

RE-EDIT: Must be getting tired when I quote myself rather than edit my comments.

[ May 27, 2003, 04:31: Message edited by: tbontob ]

Kamog · #26 May 27th, 2003, 05:50 AM

Speaking of Macs, is there a way to read a Macintosh-formatted 3.5" floppy disk on a PC? I have some old Mac floppies with backups of documents that I created when I still had my Mac. When my house got broken into, they stole my Mac (along with a bunch of other stuff).

I now have a PC running Windows and I can't read my old Mac floppies. Is there a way to read the files without having to buy another Mac?

Krsqk · #27 May 27th, 2003, 06:14 AM

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If you want to eject the floppy you can do it from the desktop by putting the floppy into the trash.

I usually end my floppy experiences by wanting to put them into the trash.

You could drag the My Computer floppy icon to the trash, but I don't think it'd have the desired result.

Of course, we could ask MS to make a Windows keyboard with an Apple key, too.

narf poit chez BOOM · #28 May 27th, 2003, 06:59 AM

try looking under emulater. there are some hardware stuff/sulutions, although i havn't looked at stuff for mac and what i have seen is convoluted - one routes through the printer port!

tbontob · #29 May 27th, 2003, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Krsqk:

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If you want to eject the floppy you can do it from the desktop by putting the floppy into the trash.

I usually end my floppy experiences by wanting to put them into the trash. You could drag the My Computer floppy icon to the trash, but I don't think it'd have the desired result. Of course, we could ask MS to make a Windows keyboard with an Apple key, too.

ROFLOL.

I think we have a better chance of MS saying that the Mac OS is a better product than having an Apple Key!

Now before I get trashed myself. Note, I did not say that the Mac OS's are better than Microsoft's.

I was just commenting on the relative probabilities of two events.

Elowan · #30 May 27th, 2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Kamog:
Speaking of Macs, is there a way to read a Macintosh-formatted 3.5" floppy disk on a PC? I have some old Mac floppies with backups of documents that I created when I still had my Mac. When my house got broken into, they stole my Mac (along with a bunch of other stuff). I now have a PC running Windows and I can't read my old Mac floppies. Is there a way to read the files without having to buy another Mac?

There's an app available called - strangely enough - Mac2PC that does that.