Managing Communions - the sombre challenge.

[Maerlande]

Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen

I would beg to differ. If you are running around with 140 member communions without having equipped them with armour and fire/frost resistance equipment, it seems very likely that you either don't know how to keep them alive and need advice or you are unusually blessed with enemies, who don't take advantage of the weaknesses you present them with.

Alternatively, you are using your so-called "irony" again, which seems to stand for "wasting other peoples' time".

Ahh, well it's only wasting your time if you are stupid enough to read it and reply and fail to understand the real meaning of the entire thread. But I'd never call you stupid. That's a banning offence.

[Graeme Dice]

He's playing in Utopia, which has 300% gold and resources, and the game is almost assuredly at the stage where all research is finished by this point, so I'm quite sure that he can make upwards of 30 yogis and gurus a turn. There's no way that his gem income can support even a single item on every single one of those mages. And an S3 yogi is way, way better than 3 and a bit royal swordsmen.

[Verjigorm]

More reasons your basic strategy is flawed:

1. How long did it take to deploy the strategy? 20 turns? That means that he has 20 turns in which to scry/spy to discover what you're doing. What is the cheapest and fastest counter strategy to your strategy? Can I do that in less than 20 turns?

2. If it took 20 turns to start the strategy, then if it is annihilated, it will take another 20 turns to restart it which means that you only get one shot at it.

3. Even if you don't get discovered, it only takes probably 3-5 turns to put a counter-strategy in place especially if the large communion person is attacking with it.

4. It's not versatile. It's a one-trick pony, so you can't efficiently change to a different type of strategy if your opponent changes his tack.

5. Its counter-strategies are much, much cheaper in both time and resource cost as you saw.

The best defense, therefore, is to pick a better strategy.

That one's obviously not a winner.

[Maerlande]

Hehe, thanks Graeme.

[Maerlande]

Originally Posted by Verjigorm

More reasons your basic strategy is flawed:

1. How long did it take to deploy the strategy? 20 turns? That means that he has 20 turns in which to scry/spy to discover what you're doing. What is the cheapest and fastest counter strategy to your strategy? Can I do that in less than 20 turns?

2. If it took 20 turns to start the strategy, then if it is annihilated, it will take another 20 turns to restart it which means that you only get one shot at it.

3. Even if you don't get discovered, it only takes probably 3-5 turns to put a counter-strategy in place especially if the large communion person is attacking with it.

4. It's not versatile. It's a one-trick pony, so you can't efficiently change to a different type of strategy if your opponent changes his tack.

5. Its counter-strategies are much, much cheaper in both time and resource cost as you saw.

The best defense, therefore, is to pick a better strategy.

That one's obviously not a winner.

1) 2 turns
2) in another 2 turns. But there are 3 more armies like it in striking distance.
3) It looks like any other stack in any other of my provinces.
4) Why the hell not? Just rescript. Or split them. Or use them as phoenix pyred exploding sacrifices? Or soul vortex them up front with attack orders? Or life after death with soul vortex and turn them into upkeep free S1 soulless?
5) What counters are cheap to 100 slave reversed communions? I'm curious.

And as far as not being a winner it's gained me 3 forts in 3 turns so far. Not sure what other measure you want to use.

[Verjigorm]

oic... rich game 25 castles. That would have been useful information to include in the OP.

If your question hasn't been answered by now with all of the information provided in the thread, then I don't think there is an answer. If you're such a great tactician.... since you seem to like insulting anyone trying to help you, then perhaps, you, oh wise one, can teach us how to play...

[Trumanator]

Its not you helping him, its that you completely missed the point of the thread.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Maerlande

5) What counters are cheap to 100 slave reversed communions? I'm curious.

Well, even tho its off topic, I'll answer the rhetorical question.

Rain of stones, obviously =)

[Verjigorm]

Originally Posted by Trumanator

Its not you helping him, its that you completely missed the point of the thread.

I'm sorry... If there's sarcasm intended I missed it... The OP says...

Well,

Turns out for all my use of communions I still fail often. I recently had battle that left me in a sombre mood. 100 of my slaves were killed in round one by a very succesful Rain of Stones. This was on attack, therefore my opponent effectively used his first turn advantage for initiative.

Any suggestions?

Maer

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by Verjigorm

I'm sorry... If there's sarcasm intended I missed it... The OP says...

Get it?