Weird use of gems in battle?

[Viajero]

Bugger, I posted this question just before leaving on Easter holiday and I just saw all your advice here today.

Thanks a lot for the answers. Yes I calculated the fatigue wrong halving it each time per additonal numbers.

Additonally the caster was a Tartarian Titan so no equipment encumbrence. The 42 fatigue was achieved by casting some buffs prior: summon earthpower, phoenix power and maybe some other spell I cant remember now.

No rain or other funny effect going on at the same time.

Once Im back at the PC where I have that game turn Ill check again. Thanks.

[Squirrelloid]

casters with 0 enc. still take equipment fatigue for spellcasting.

[Viajero]

Originally Posted by Squirrelloid

casters with 0 enc. still take equipment fatigue for spellcasting.

Fuc*!

Things you learn in the forum! Thanks.

Presume you are 100% sure. But makes no "logic" sense; if an undead has no equipment fatigue for combat (i.e. its movements are unhindered by equipment) why should he/she have it for spell casting?

Anyways, that would explain a lot of the gems my tartarians have recently "wasted". The one that originated this thread was wearing Alsefrik´s (spelling) armour (artifact level 8) or one of those heavy ones...

[Sombre]

It doesn't make much sense, it's true. You would think either armour makes a difference or it doesn't, not it doesn't for melee but does for magic.

But hey, the standard was set when D&D mages weren't allowed armour. It's a well known fantasy trope. It also turns up in cyberpunk where technologists and hackers are 99% of the time physically weak.

[chrispedersen]

more than just the DnD trope - iron was said to interfere with the fey, as well as spell casting in general. Even the basis of alchemy had the properties of the metals...

[Viajero]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

more than just the DnD trope - iron was said to interfere with the fey, as well as spell casting in general. Even the basis of alchemy had the properties of the metals...

Nah, the manual says something about casting being difficult with armor because its heavy and/or hinders movement for the magic signs...

"...Spell casters also incur fatigue equal to their Encumbrence value for each spell cast. This is not subject to reduction by skill bonuses. It is harder to make magical gestures in heavy armor. Everyone knows from armor class rules..." (page 87)

So if "undead" is considered a "skill" then the rules are exact. Otherwise they are not!

In any event it would be nice to have the spellcasting encumbrence also displayed so to avoid this confuison...

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by Viajero

In any event it would be nice to have the spellcasting encumbrence also displayed so to avoid this confuison...

Try clicking on the Encumbrance value on the unit display screen. It should pop up a window with different melee and spellcasting encumbrances.

Lots of the unit info values have "click for more detail" pop-ups like this.

[Sombre]

It is displayed. Right click enc.

[Viajero]

Cool, thanks.