War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)

[Puke]

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Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:
Well, I fear the death toll will rise beyond 2,400 (Peal Harbor) today in the U.S. ..and words cannot express what I feel right now...

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if you will pardon the humor at this grim time, its not exactly the same now. now, we are the MEE in real life. the hatred of every minority group in the world is directed at our nation, and while we provide most of the food exported to those countries, their people engineer private wars against us. we can not direct our hatred at any one nation, because nations do not oppose us. we can not pin down an easy target, because it is a decentralized foe who hates us not for economic or industrial reasons, but for philosophical ones.

I dare say, what i am most in wonder about is what this will cause our war against terrorist states to evolve into. will our tactics change? will our culture change? will we be forced to become the monsters that the world sees us as?

[dogscoff]

True enough, Puke. I doubt I'm in danger but this is enough to make anyone edgy.

That said those statments are often directed to "The West" rather than the US specifically. It is wrong to jump to conclusions, but it's hard to imagine anyone else capable, other than these (supposedly) muslim extremists. Who else has suicide attacks as a trademark? Who else has such a hate-on for the US? Ex Soviets? Doubt it, they have enough problems. Anti- capitalists don't have the resources and the vast majority of that movement is peaceful.

I really hope George Dubbya's response will be controlled and informed. I'm not in the mood for a World War.

(BTW, the word "supposedly" was for "muslim", not "extremist." I don't think anyone can doubt that this is extreme.)

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[LazarusLong42]

Dogscoff:

I've heard reports they're closing down central London as a precaution. Since you're UK, can you confirm that?

The carbomb at the State Dept. was a false report, as apparently were any reports of White House or Capital attacks. The Pentagon attack seems to have been a small commuter plane into the southern face--which has since collapsed.

There are still airplanes missing and/or unaccounted for. (One may have just landed in Cleveland).

Much of the US is locking down. I live near Detroit, right on the border with Canada, which has now closed down. Federal buildings are either closed or on heavy alert, everywhere. The Sears Tower, I'm told, has been evacuated, as I'm sure are many other large targets.

In other words, no one knows for certain what's going on. Lovely.

Puke, you're right. We are the MEE.

LL

[Cyrien]

On the average day the WTC has 50k ppl in it. Can only hope that the morning time reduces the numbers drastically.... But somehow I don't hold out to much hope...

rough estimates say possibly 35k.

PS: US military is on Threatcon Delta... highest level...

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Just to make the distinctions clear...

THREATCON NORMAL - No threat of terrorist activity is present.

THREATCON ALPHA - There is a general threat of possible terrorist activity against installations, building locations,
ooc and/or personnel, the nature and extent of which are unpredictable.

THREATCON BRAVO - There is an increased and more predictable threat of terrorist activity even though no particular target has been identified.

THREATCON CHARLIE - An incident has occurred or intelligence has been received indicating that some form of terrorist action is imminent.

THREATCON DELTA - A terrorist attack has occurred or intelligence has been received that action against a specific location is likely.

Further this is not Defcon. Defcon is a military alert readiness in the face of possible war... Threatcon is security levels and anti-terrorist actions.

[This message has been edited by Cyrien (edited 11 September 2001).]

[dogscoff]

Can't confirm or dny much, all my data is from this forum and a few sites which are slow due to traffic and/or haven't been updated in a few hours.

Last I heard the London Stock exchange had ben shut down. I imagine the airports are a mess as well. Haven't heard of an evacuation though. (4 international airports in London)


If you can get to a TV or radio, you'd be better off with those, but for those who can't:
CNN Not too much info here.
BBC. Good site, but traffic is heavy. You may not get through.
The times. Crap paper, but the site is accessible and has quite a bit of data.


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[dogscoff]

You're right, MEE

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[This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 11 September 2001).]

[dogscoff]

Sorry for multiple Posts. Update on London status:

"Overseas, the London Stock Exchange evacuated its building but said trade continued from an alternate site.
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I don't think London has been evacuated, just the one building.

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I suggest that everyone in the world should call upon GOD by whatever name they believe in. If this is done then I think help will be given.

In America sing GOD BLESS AMERICA.

You might also occasionally taunt the devil by whistling major/col Bogy, the theme song from 'the bridge over the river Kwai'.

If you criticize what I just said, then in your post you had better be able to say

GOD HELP US ALL

Lonnie Courtney Clay

[golf_prez]

I am Praying for you guys in America during this terrible, terrible day.

Craig
Toronto, Canada

[Puke]

i hear the west bank is calling upon god.. and giving thanks.

****ers.